Does "Touch not mine ....

[ktn4eg]

.....anointed" (1 Chronicles 16:22) still apply to us today?

If it does, who exactly is "mine anointed" today? Is this applicable only to pastors?

IMHO, if it applies today, could it apply also to full-time evangelists?

Also, how far should this be taken? IOW, isn't such an application today open to abuse?

 

[Iconoclast]

.....anointed" (1 Chronicles 16:22) still apply to us today?

If it does, who exactly is "mine anointed" today? Is this applicable only to pastors?

IMHO, if it applies today, could it apply also to full-time evangelists?

Also, how far should this be taken? IOW, isn't such an application today open to abuse?

It can extend to the church....

16 have ye not known that ye are a sanctuary of God, and the Spirit of God doth dwell in you?

17 if any one the sanctuary of God doth waste, him shall God waste; for the sanctuary of God is holy, the which ye are. the ye is plural speaking of the church...the temple of God.

 

[Scarlett O.]

.....anointed" (1 Chronicles 16:22) still apply to us today?

If it does, who exactly is "mine anointed" today? Is this applicable only to pastors?

IMHO, if it applies today, could it apply also to full-time evangelists?

Also, how far should this be taken? IOW, isn't such an application today open to abuse?

Touch not mine anointed has absolutely nothing to do with preachers, pastors, or any church leaders.

It never has. The "anointed" was the nation of Israel.

Other than your scripture citation from Chronicles (which is a psalm by David when the ark was brought in), it's also found in Psalm 105.

David is singing/reciting a psalm giving a history of God's taking care of the nation of Israel - the anointed.

Psalm 105:6-15 (King James)

(6) O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen. (7) He is the LORD our God: his judgments are in all the earth. (8) He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations. (9) Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac; (10) And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant: (11) Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance: (12) When they were but a few men in number; yea, very few, and strangers in it. (13) When they went from one nation to another, from one kingdom to another people; (14) He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes; (15) Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

 

[Iconoclast]

25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Never mind. Lost my train ... LOL

 

[drfuss]

Touch not mine anointed has absolutely nothing to do with preachers, pastors, or any church leaders.

It never has. The "anointed" was the nation of Israel.

Other than your scripture citation from Chronicles (which is a psalm by David when the ark was brought in), it's also found in Psalm 105.

David is singing/reciting a psalm giving a history of God's taking care of the nation of Israel - the anointed.

Right on. I have seen the "anointed" misused many times by preachers wanting laymen to blindly follow them without question as they do unethical things, Such as, You are not to question anything the Lord's anointed does.

 

[Jerome]

Yep. Church elders too.

Recent article by Tom Chantry of Christ Reformed Baptist Church:

“Touch not my anointed ones.” It’s a favorite passage of authoritarian abusers throughout the church. . .

more here:

http://chantrynotes.wordpress.com/2013/09/20/touch-not-the-lords-anointed/

 

[Ed B]

Right on. I have seen the "anointed" misused many times by preachers wanting laymen to blindly follow them without question as they do unethical things, Such as, You are not to question anything the Lord's anointed does.

Yes, this has been terribly misused by some Pentecostal and charismatics. Just point out the error being taught or lived out by some high profile "full gospel" ministers and this will be thrown out like a curse upon your head.

 

[OldRegular]

Yes, this has been terribly misused by some Pentecostal and charismatics. Just point out the error being taught or lived out by some high profile "full gospel" ministers and this will be thrown out like a curse upon your head.

That is a fact!

 

[Inspector Javert]

Agree with the sentiments above.....this does not apply to Pastoral staff or any other New Testament Church office. David also stated that in reference to God's chosen king of Israel (Saul at the time). Last I checked, I know of no such person.

 

[michael-acts17:11]

God's "anointed" only applies to men under the Old Covenant who were anointed by a prophet. There are no prophets under the New Covenant, & we are all equal priests in the Priesthood of the believers. Only self-righteous wannabe high priests claim special anointing.

 

[Jerome]

Dr. Harold Hunter, speaking at the pre-Convention meeting of the Conference of Southern Baptist Evangelists (COSBE) in Phoenix (2011):

Baptist Press

Harold Hunter also referred to an action of the North American Mission Board toward defunding the Baptism Assistance Project, a COSBE-NAMB partnership. That initiative provided COSBE-certified evangelists a modest, pre-determined honorarium with travel and lodging expenses to preach at any Southern Baptist church requesting assistance to reverse a church's lack of baptisms.

"I want to say a word that I hope gets back to NAMB," Hunter said, noting that he was speaking for himself and not COSBE. "You cut the funding of COSBE. These evangelists are listed in the Word of God as a gift to the church. They were laid hold upon by the hand of the Holy Spirit and are guided by the [Bible]."

Noting that Psalm 105:15 "categorically says 'touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm,'" Harold Hunter said he wanted North American Mission Board leaders to know that "in my opinion, you sinned against God. You cannot mistreat the only position in the entire Southern Baptist Convention that exists primarily to bring people to Christ ... and you had the audacity to cut that funding in the face of a holy God. Shame on you."

 

[michael-acts17:11]

Dr Hunter is reading much into Scripture & ignoring certain Biblical truths. Under the Old Covenant, God's anointing was a visible event which was witnessed by others. It was performed by a prophet to whom God spoke directly; telling them whom to anoint. The event, with time & place, is often recorded in the Biblical historical record. This Holy Spirit "anointing" cannot be substantiated, documented, or witnessed. It is reliant solely on the claim of the priestly preacher that he was "anointed". Preachers of every denomination claim to be "anointed", yet cannot give a consistent, coherent description of this event. There is no defining difference between the IFB preacher who claims super special anointing & the charismatic faith healer who claims the same. It's a feeling, a thought, a whispered voice, etc. No, it's just Scripture-twisting nonsense.

Under the New Covenant, God no longer speaks to us through specially anointed priests & prophets. He speaks to every single individual believer through Christ & the written Word. Those are the facts.