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Don't miss this fresh prophetic moving

John of Japan

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Is it the former rain or the latter rain? :laugh:

In the second one he takes the Lord's name in vain. Then he totally misses the Bible basis for discernment in Deut., and says he has received prophecies that were wrong from "great prophets." According to the Bible, one miss and you're a false prophet.
 

saturneptune

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Is it the former rain or the latter rain? :laugh:

In the second one he takes the Lord's name in vain. Then he totally misses the Bible basis for discernment in Deut., and says he has received prophecies that were wrong from "great prophets." According to the Bible, one miss and you're a false prophet.

Between taking the Lord's name in vain, and his talks that sound like a commerical for the SyFy channel, I wonder what he smokes. The angel sitting on the bed sounded like an episode of Ghost Hunters. The speech was obviously tied to the Myan calendar myth.

In addition, he makes three catagories of prophets, God, false and wrong. There are only two. You are either a prophet of God with a perfect track record, or you are a false prophet. There is no such thing as a "wrong prophet" in the middle.

I would like to figure out how he does that trick of seeing future headlines. If I could learn that, I could save money by cancelling the paper subscription.
 
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We no longer have apostles or prophets. We have the complete Word of God and the indwelling Holy Spirit. Notice that the Church WAS built on that foundation.

Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
 

InTheLight

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I would like to figure out how he does that trick of seeing future headlines. If I could learn that, I could save money by cancelling the paper subscription.

I think the guy has seen too many 1940's movies using the depiction of newspaper headlines as short-cut story telling technique and a transition to another scene in the movie. He just incorporated that technique in his dream he had about God's brass TV book.
 

InTheLight

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Wow, Calvinists will love the bit in the first video (about 13:10 min. mark) where he says it's time for humans to "set in motion the will of God."
 

InTheLight

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and in case you forgot how to receive the prophetic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9QXkjZuIHg&feature=related

"I've never in my life seen the church being led by so many dreams, visions, and words of the Lord from people that don't even know if they've heard from another person, or this prophetic person....My point is that you need to consider the source."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!

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Gabriel Elijah

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While I certainly agree that the speakers from the videos are severely confused, I’ve recently been doing a study on spiritual gifts to teach at church & have found various respectable scholars who maintain that the gift of apostleship & prophecy still exist. While defined differently from those in certain charismatic movements, many advocates believe that the gift of apostleship is relevant among missionaries (ie one who is sent) & the gift of prophecy among powerful preachers (ie forth-telling instead of foretelling). While most say the spiritual gift is different from the office, Wayne Grudem believes that the gift of prophecy still exists among many church goers today, where God gives specific revelations to certain individuals to communicate to his/her congregation. Ken Boa explains the gift of prophecy this way “The ability to receive and proclaim a message from God. This could involve the foretelling of future events, though its primary purpose as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:3 is forth-telling: one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouragement, and consolation. This gift provides a word from God to a specific group, not the normative Word of God to all believers.” So the question is—if the spiritual gift is "defined accurately"-- could certain gifts that were thought to cease with the early church still exist today?
 

Iconoclast

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You should of posted this one Icon......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaWxa0kiL4s

There are so many now...it is hard to keep track of each one.I will chech out his Jesus visitations also..lol...

What is sad to be so many drawn in. The people seem to be nice people ,friendly and all,......so do many of the cults...that is why people flock to them. I look in case I come across some of these kinds in my travels,

last one was about a couple of months ago in St.Louis.....
In Tenn. now......more likely to find the snake handler types:thumbsup:
 

Iconoclast

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While I certainly agree that the speakers from the videos are severely confused, I’ve recently been doing a study on spiritual gifts to teach at church & have found various respectable scholars who maintain that the gift of apostleship & prophecy still exist. While defined differently from those in certain charismatic movements, many advocates believe that the gift of apostleship is relevant among missionaries (ie one who is sent) & the gift of prophecy among powerful preachers (ie forth-telling instead of foretelling). While most say the spiritual gift is different from the office, Wayne Grudem believes that the gift of prophecy still exists among many church goers today, where God gives specific revelations to certain individuals to communicate to his/her congregation. Ken Boa explains the gift of prophecy this way “The ability to receive and proclaim a message from God. This could involve the foretelling of future events, though its primary purpose as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:3 is forth-telling: one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouragement, and consolation. This gift provides a word from God to a specific group, not the normative Word of God to all believers.” So the question is—if the spiritual gift is "defined accurately"-- could certain gifts that were thought to cease with the early church still exist today?

Hello GE,
I believe wayne grudem ruined His systematic theology with his wrong view of the gifts.I have written about it before.

Most all that I know reject this whole section as error believing he opens the door to error here , by redefining what was the nature of a prophecy.....The page where he shows the Head of a "prophet" with some arrows{the prophecy} coming into his head. Then he goes on to say....the prophet now puts it in his own words...or something to that effect????

That is not what happened....his example of Agubus does not make the case.

There are no Apostles today.......only those who were foundational.
The missionaries I know say they only see evidence of demonic activity in the field. God has provided a safe place in scripture for His people.
 
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