Dr Ach's Response To James White

[DrJamesAch]

http://dorightchristians.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/response-to-james-white/

This post was acknowledged on his Twitter account and is still unanswered.

 

[DrJamesAch]

By the way, can someone explain why James White is in a Scottish Rite Masonic garb while in the Caymen Islands?

http://aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=1601

Scottish Rite Pics

http://www.scotbagpipes.com/acatalog/WES1MASONICCHROME.JPG

And, explain why White uses the highly occultic Borromean circles on his book, "The Forgotten Trinity"? NO Christian should EVER use occult pagan symbols to display Christian beliefs, period. Not even the so-called "Christian" use of this is Christian. The "Christian" use of it is derived from the House of Borromeo, a Roman Catholic Reformer.

James is the only apologist I know that doesn't have a definitive work on Freemasonry. His website rarely mentions it and never condemns it, and with all the works on Mormonism, you would think that he'd want to explain the history of Masonry to give a background to Mormonism.

HMMMMMM......

 

[preacher4truth]

This post was acknowledged on his Twitter account and is still unanswered.

Dialog with you is unprofitable, however, give the date on this alleged exchange (acknowledgment) of your horrendously written article between you and Mr. White. I see no such acknowledgment on his tweet feed. :wavey:

 

[Winman]

By the way, can someone explain why James White is in a Scottish Rite Masonic garb while in the Caymen Islands?

http://aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=1601

Scottish Rite Pics

http://www.scotbagpipes.com/acatalog/WES1MASONICCHROME.JPG

And, explain why White uses the highly occultic Borromean circles on his book, "The Forgotten Trinity"? NO Christian should EVER use occult pagan symbols to display Christian beliefs, period. Not even the so-called "Christian" use of this is Christian. The "Christian" use of it is derived from the House of Borromeo, a Roman Catholic Reformer.

James is the only apologist I know that doesn't have a definitive work on Freemasonry. His website rarely mentions it and never condemns it, and with all the works on Mormonism, you would think that he'd want to explain the history of Masonry to give a background to Mormonism.

HMMMMMM......

A pic is worth a thousand words

 

[preacher4truth]

And interestingly enough, out of your 152 tweets not once have you sent one to James White. :thumbsup: :wavey: :laugh:

 

[Greektim]

http://dorightchristians.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/response-to-james-white/

This post was acknowledged on his Twitter account and is still unanswered.

I'm not sure if this link was the one I read where you responded to his diving line show, but I read the first few paragraphs of that, and I stopped b/c you clearly did not hear JW very well. He said he was not popular. He was not referring to his book but the KJV issue at large. These kind of glaring errors led me to believe that the rest of what you wrote would be just as inaccurate. So I didn't bother reading further.

 

[agedman]

By the way, can someone explain why James White is in a Scottish Rite Masonic garb while in the Caymen Islands?

This is sooooooo funny!:laugh:


He sees a picture and thinks it is proof. :laugh:

The picture isn't proof.

Here is a picture from the Scotweb on wedding attire. It shows the same "proof" that the sporran isn't worn just by Masons.

The thistle is the NATIONAL SYMBOL of SCOTLAND! :BangHead:

What a JOKE that you would show your ignorance by using these pictures!

It is just so funny how bias will grab anything of smoke and mirrors to try to substantiate the claim.

Folks - I don't have a clue if white is a Mason or not - and at this point in my life I really don't care!

My concern is that this tread is attempting to promote a view that is based upon supposition and produces proof from vapor.

How dare a person who proclaims that they are trying to wrench the world of believers from the clutches of satanic influence use so little veracity.

I have confronted many SBC pastors who were Masons, and held non- calvinistic thinking such as you proclaim; and I even attended a funeral where such a pastor wore the apron and even participating in the Masonic "last rites" ceremony at the grave site.

Where is your thread linking all SBC pastors as preaching falsehood using proof of Masonry?

Where is the proof that you have condemned all such pastors as tools of satanic influence and members of a grand right wing conspiracy because they are active in the Masonry?

I'm not defending Masonry - far from it.

 

[Iconoclast]

This is sooooooo funny!:laugh:


He sees a picture and thinks it is proof. :laugh:

The picture isn't proof.

Here is a picture from the Scotweb on wedding attire. It shows the same "proof" that the sporran isn't worn just by Masons.

The thistle is the NATIONAL SYMBOL of SCOTLAND! :BangHead:

What a JOKE that you would show your ignorance by using these pictures!

It is just so funny how bias will grab anything of smoke and mirrors to try to substantiate the claim.

Folks - I don't have a clue if white is a Mason or not - and at this point in my life I really don't care!

My concern is that this tread is attempting to promote a view that is based upon supposition and produces proof from vapor.

How dare a person who proclaims that they are trying to wrench the world of believers from the clutches of satanic influence use so little veracity.

I have confronted many SBC pastors who were Masons, and held non- calvinistic thinking such as you proclaim; and I even attended a funeral where such a pastor wore the apron and even participating in the Masonic "last rites" ceremony at the grave site.

Where is your thread linking all SBC pastors as preaching falsehood using proof of Masonry?

Where is the proof that you have condemned all such pastors as tools of satanic influence and members of a grand right wing conspiracy because they are active in the Masonry?

I'm not defending Masonry - far from it.

Oh No...you arrogant calvinists expecting Ach to be truthful and not lie or plagerize...attacking ACH like hyenas....nothing left but the bones{how is that RM? saved you another post!}

So now ACH is suggesting that Dr.White is the "anti christ" or a 33 degree masonic wizard...lol...the plot thickens.....
then P4T reports this;

nd interestingly enough, out of your 152 tweets not once have you sent one to James White.

Tell me this is not true???? what are we dealing with here?

ACH...get a grip on yourself...really , this is beyond bizarre!

Notice..it did not stop Winman from jumping on the bandwagon..

 

[preacher4truth]

Oh No...you arrogant calvinists expecting Ach to be truthful and not lie or plagerize...attacking ACH like hyenas....nothing left but the bones{how is that RM? saved you another post!}

So now ACH is suggesting that Dr.White is the "anti christ" or a 33 degree masonic wizard...lol...the plot thickens.....
then P4T reports this;


Tell me this is not true???? what are we dealing with here?

ACH...get a grip on yourself...really , this is beyond bizarre!

Notice..it did not stop Winman from jumping on the bandwagon..

lol...a little investigation shows that the transaction between James White and James Ach simply never happened. :love2:

B-U-S-T-E-D! :wavey:

Then we have this: The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. Proverbs 14:15.

Winman fell through the trap door.

Good thing the 'arrogant' Calvinists look well into things and don't buy into 'every' word offered up by man. Then again, finding out the truth and exposing error and mistruths to the other camp is 'attacking' them in 'hyena' fashion! LOL!!!!!!

 

[Gorship]

where did you read that the barromean circles are occult? all the searching I do just comes up with it being a repersentation of the trinity - much like the "shield of faith" but simplified.

dont know anything about James white to comment on anything else.

 

[Iconoclast]

lol...a little investigation shows that the transaction between James White and James Ach simply never happened. :

B-U-S-T-E-D! :wavey:

Then we have this: The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. Proverbs 14:15.

Winman fell through the trap door.

Good thing the 'arrogant' Calvinists look well into things and don't buy into 'every' word offered up by man. Then again, finding out the truth and exposing error and mistruths to the other camp is 'attacking' them in 'hyena' fashion! LOL!!!!!!

:laugh::applause::laugh: Good catch P4t....this is really unbelievable..lol

 

[DrJamesAch]

where did you read that the barromean circles are occult? all the searching I do just comes up with it being a repersentation of the trinity - much like the "shield of faith" but simplified.

dont know anything about James white to comment on anything else.

First of all, the so-called "Christian" usage of those circles was started by the House of Barromea.

"The figure of the Borromean rings, which forms part of the family’s coat of arms, is well known in the diverse fields of topology, psychoanalysis and theology."


"The aristocratic Borromeo family, said to date from before the twelfth century, were counts of Arona from the mid-fifteenth century[1] and played important roles in the politics of the Duchy of Milan and in the Catholic Reformation" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Borromeo

Now the history of the Barromean rings in other religions.

"The name "Borromean rings" comes from their use in the coat of arms of the aristocratic Borromeo family in Northern Italy. The link itself is much older and has appeared in Gandhara (Afghan) Buddhist art from around the 2nd century[citation needed], and in the form of the valknut on Norse image stones dating back to the 7th century." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borromean_rings

When you research things like this, you have to be careful of so-called Christian websites that try to Christianize occultic symbols but fail to go further into the history of the symbolism. Just because a source claims to be Christian doesn't mean it is. I can excuse the ignorance of some Christian publications for not knowing the truth behind this, but not a seasoned apologist who works almost exclusively with cults.

 

[preacher4truth]

where did you read that the barromean circles are occult? all the searching I do just comes up with it being a repersentation of the trinity - much like the "shield of faith" but simplified.

dont know anything about James white to comment on anything else.

Hello BJG,

Ach is a staunch follower of Peter S. Ruckman, G. A. Riplinger and Jack Van Impe (Impe is on his 'followers' list on Twitter as I type, but, you never know, could be removed as a 'gotcha'!). This info should help you.

As far as James White? He is an apologist and author of the Reformed persuasion, and Ach pretended to have confounded him via Twitter to add some much needed and yet lacking clout to his person. A simple search on Twitter shows they've not interacted.

 

[preacher4truth]

:laugh::applause::laugh: Good catch P4t....this is really unbelievable..lol

All day long. This must be what is meant by 'shooting fish in a barrel'. :thumbs:

 

[DrJamesAch]

:laugh::applause::laugh: Good catch P4t....this is really unbelievable..lol

Transaction? I said that I wrote something about White (which is clearly on my website) White responded to it for TWENTY MINUTES on his radio show (which is not disputed, your buddy even posted it on the forum) and then I gave a second response (which is the subject of this thread with the link to the response) and that response is acknowledged on White's Twitter page with the link given to White (https://twitter.com/pastorwil/status/354958081706295296) as well as acknowledged on his website.

"Started off foolishly trying to reason with a King James Onlyist (his responses show that was about as useful as trying to reason with Peter Ruckman)http://aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?catid=12

You folks would truly stink at being lawyers. Your "investigation" tactics are GARBAGE.

 

[DrJamesAch]

Hello BJG,

Ach is a staunch follower of Peter S. Ruckman, G. A. Riplinger and Jack Van Impe (Impe is on his 'followers' list on Twitter as I type, but, you never know, could be removed as a 'gotcha'!). This info should help you.

As far as James White? He is an apologist and author of the Reformed persuasion, and Ach pretended to have confounded him via Twitter to add some much needed and yet lacking clout to his person. A simple search on Twitter shows they've not interacted.

Show the link where I said I "confounded him on Twitter"? What I said was that the James White is AWARE OF THE RESPONSE AS POSTED ON HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT (which is post above) so that he can't say that he hasn't responded because he is not aware of the response. White has twice acknowledged this response and has not responded to it.

The lies that you are willing to tell to promote your anti Non Cal agenda are astounding.

 

[Gorship]

woah definitley didnt know that about those rings. Be curious to hear what my pastors thoughts are.

Dr.Ach, do you have a link to Geislers response to Mr. White. I would love to read it.

 

[preacher4truth]

Transaction? I said that I wrote something about White (which is clearly on my website) White responded to it for TWENTY MINUTES on his radio show (which is not disputed, your buddy even posted it on the forum) and then I gave a second response (which is the subject of this thread with the link to the response) and that response is acknowledged on White's Twitter page with the link given to White (https://twitter.com/pastorwil/status/354958081706295296) as well as acknowledged on his website.

"Started off foolishly trying to reason with a King James Onlyist (his responses show that was about as useful as trying to reason with Peter Ruckman)http://aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?catid=12

You folks would truly stink at being lawyers. Your "investigation" tactics are GARBAGE.

Baloney. You said via Twitter and your link proves nothing and you've changed your story yet again. Keep trying, I'm sure your mind will drum up something to deceive yourself again.

You've been caught. I love this 'catch and release'. :wavey:

Your twitter interaction NEVER happened and you claimed it did.

 

[DrJamesAch]

Baloney. You said via Twitter and your link proves nothing and you've changed your story yet again. Keep trying, I'm sure your mind will drum up something to deceive yourself again.

You've been caught. I love this 'catch and release'. :wavey:

Your twitter interaction NEVER happened and you claimed it did.

The difference is I can post the links and evidence of what I said. YOU CAN'T. You can't back up your accusations and neither can Icon. My statements are backed up with facts, evidence, documentation, and links. Yours are just vitriolic rhetoric with no proof of anything you say, kind of like the same tactics Calvin used to burn"heretics"-some things never change.

 

[preacher4truth]

Show the link where I said I "confounded him on Twitter"? What I said was that the James White is AWARE OF THE RESPONSE AS POSTED ON HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT (which is post above) so that he can't say that he hasn't responded because he is not aware of the response. White has twice acknowledged this response and has not responded to it.

The lies that you are willing to tell to promote your anti Non Cal agenda are astounding.

You're totally ridiculous, this is your implication in your twisted OP.

I won't continue to engage you, this is what you desire all day, a back and forth denial of your mistruths, and to engage in back and forth nonsense.

(BTW I love hearing all the false credentials you give to yourself on this show -- LOL!!!!!)

James White calls him 'Doc Ock'.

....waiting for White to dismantle him. Doc Ock starts off knowing he WILL be dismantled (and White agrees) and provides false assumptions that White debated Caner, which isn't true. And many more falsehoods by Ach follow and are pointed out which causes White to cackle, and me too! Go figure.

You all listen to this and see how easily Ach is picked apart. Love it. :wavey:

James White shooting fish in a barrel. LOL!!!!!!