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Dr Jeffress and the Mormons

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WestminsterMan

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saturneptune said:
I will tell you who I will vote for, neither A or B. First of all, A and B are almost the same when compared to the Constitution. Second, neither A or B wants to serve the American people, but themselves to our tax dollars and power to govern.

For those who have bought into the media myth of a difference between Obama and (you pick) Perry, Romney, Gingrich, and Palin, it is my sincere hope they will stay home on election day.

Regardless of what anyone says, being a Christian is a very important factor in who to vote for. The reason Romney is out is because he belongs to a cult...
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What if one of GOP candidates was a Jew? That's considered a non-Christian religion - would that disqualify him/her? What about a practicing Native American Indian candidate? Their religious beliefs are mostly non-Christian - would that be a disqualifying factor? What about of the founding fathers - many of them were deists and didn't believe in the Trinity - you would need to disqualify them as well. What about Catholics?

I would like to refer you all to the last sentence of Article VI of the Constitution, and it reads as follows: "[N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." It doesn't get any clearer than that folks.

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Jerome

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WestminsterMan said:
What about Catholics?
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Mormonism is just a cult; look at what Catholicism is:

The Westminster Confession of Faith (also the 1689 London Baptist Confession, which others here supposedly "hold to") proclaims that the Pope in Rome is the Antichrist.
 
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WestminsterMan

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Jerome said:
Mormonism is just a cult; look at what Catholicism is:

The Westminster Confession of Faith (also the 1689 London Baptist Confession, which others here supposedly "hold to") proclaims that the Pope in Rome is the Antichrist.
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I noticed that you skipped my other examples. Well...

So the Pope is the Antichrist? According to scripture there are more than one. Hmmm... looks like some bad blood creeping in there.

WM

P.s. Just for the record, the Pope isn't on the GOP ticket this time around - although Newt is a recent convert.
 
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Jerome

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WestminsterMan said:
So the Pope is the Antichrist? According to scripture there are more than one.
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Sure there are many antichrists, but the Confessions are quite clear which Antichrist they are referring to:

that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition (WCF)

whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming (1689LBC)
 
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WestminsterMan

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Jerome said:
Sure there are many antichrists, but the Confessions are quite clear which Antichrist they are referring to:

that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition (WCF)

whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming (1689LBC)
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OK... so - do you care to address my larger points and the constitutional issue, or are you only interested in bashing Mormons and Catholics exclusively?

WM

P.s. The Confessions are a man-made document, so....
 
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FriendofSpurgeon

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jaigner said:
Jeffress is a complete joke. He's one of the best at making Baptists look bad. Was what he said correct? Possibly. But why would he appear at a political event and then proceed to comment on the religious stance of another candidate. It's so wrong.
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I agree. No sense at all stating that at a political event.

Is Mormonism a false religion? Absolutely. Is it a cult in the normal sense of the word? Not at all.

Great article by former Republican congressman Joe Scarborough --
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65562.html
 
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jaigner

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SBCPreacher said:
Emphasis mine. After reading all the posts of this thread, I find this one most troubling. What he said in calling Mormonism a cult is only possibly correct? Really? You mean that he was possibly wrong and Mormonism isn't a cult? Really?
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Believe it. Is Mormonism a part of evangelical Christianity? Absolutely not. Are they a cult? I don't think it would be accurate to say that.
 
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jaigner

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FundyPat said:
But calling a guy a joke and say he makes you want to puke is perfectly fine eh? :rolleyes:

Some of God's people should be seen --- and not heard.
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He is a joke. People laugh at him every time he's on the news. I'm not just insulting him.

The false humility, poorly phrased statements, and public backlash does make me want to puke. There's nothing wrong with that, either.

And next time you want to simply quote the Bible and assert that there's something wrong with me, please don't use KJV.
 
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jaigner

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John Toppass said:
WOW! Every time I think it is OK to take some folks off "ignore", they prove me wrong. Anybody reading your past posts will understand that you are a very liberal person and then this statement would not surprise anyone. Did you think of this while you were protesting on wall street?
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I'm thousands of miles from Wall Street right now, unless there is a Wall Street in my particular town of 100,000.

I'm not a liberal, though I will often be the most liberal person in a room full of conservatives and the most conservative in a room full of liberals. Basically, I don't put up with all the crap and mind games from each side.
 
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matt wade

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jaigner said:
He is a joke. People laugh at him every time he's on the news. I'm not just insulting him.

The false humility, poorly phrased statements, and public backlash does make me want to puke. There's nothing wrong with that, either.

And next time you want to simply quote the Bible and assert that there's something wrong with me, please don't use KJV.
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matt wade

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WestminsterMan said:
I would like to refer you all to the last sentence of Article VI of the Constitution, and it reads as follows: "[N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." It doesn't get any clearer than that folks.
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This is not meant to restrict how people vote for a candidate. It simply means that the government itself can't restrict someone from holding office based upon religion.
 
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Alcott

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WestminsterMan said:
I would like to refer you all to the last sentence of Article VI of the Constitution, and it reads as follows: "[N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." It doesn't get any clearer than that folks.
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Anyone can hold an office in the USA; certainly can run for elective office and be elected. But who an individual voter chooses can be based on any criteria that voter selects. It can't be any clearer than that.
 
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WestminsterMan

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Alcott said:
Anyone can hold an office in the USA; certainly can run for elective office and be elected. But who an individual voter chooses can be based on any criteria that voter selects. It can't be any clearer than that.
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Oh... I see, so let's just throw out 200 plus years of tradition. Well, we probably shouldn't complain about Sharia law. If one's criteria is one of religious preference then...

WM
 
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