Dr. Nicole Saphier Blasts 'Myopic' CDC For Ignoring Natural Immunity: 'Not Following The Science'

[Revmitchell]

Dr. Nicole Saphier, an author and radiologist who frequently provides analysis on the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic on Fox News and Fox Business, blasted the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) for being "myopic" on the topic of natural immunity from the virus.

Saphier's analysis, provided on Wednesday night's edition of Fox News' "Hannity," came after host Sean Hannity brought up a Cleveland Clinic study suggesting that individuals who have already had COVID-19 would not additionally benefit from obtaining a vaccine.

"Sean, it’s not even just the Cleveland clinic at this point," she said. "We have ample data showing that natural immunity provides effectiveness against severe disease from SARS-CoV-2. In fact, Israel showed that reinfection following prior infection is about seven times less likely than if you are fully vaccinated. So I find it to be very myopic that the CDC continues to discount the protection of natural immunity. They only do it for SARS-CoV-2. They acknowledge natural immunity for measles, chickenpox, and many other viruses, but they are so myopic right now in trying to encourage vaccination that they are truly actually not following the science."


Dr. Nicole Saphier Blasts 'Myopic' CDC For Ignoring Natural Immunity: 'Not Following The Science'

 

[SGO]

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[Baptist Believer]

Vaccines RELY on your body’s immune system. All they do is activate it to attack certain types of dangers by “showing” your body what it looks like.

Therefore, your body will develop antibodies that will be ready to attack the novel virus from the very first moment instead of having to figure out how to respond while the body is getting quickly overwhelmed.

The only thing “unnatural” is the introduction of the simulated threat.

I have to wonder about the qualifications of so-called experts who don’t understand the very basics of the way vaccines work.

 

[rlvaughn]

Vaccines RELY on your body’s immune system. All they do is activate it to attack certain types of dangers by “showing” your body what it looks like.

For people who have already had Covid-19, won't their bodies already know what it looks like? Why would they need the vaccine to show them that?

 

[Baptist Believer]

For people who have already had Covid-19, won't their bodies already know what it looks like? Why would they need the vaccine to show them that?

As I understand it, the vaccine was broad enough to potentially handle some of the variants. I do not know if the specific antibodies one gains from a normal infection are generalized enough to fight a similar version of the virus. There are still a lot of unknowns.

My mother, who had COVID-19 and received monoclonal antibodies, was strongly advised to get the vaccine. Her husband, who is the one who wouldn’t wear and mask and brought COVID-19 into the home, didn’t want treatment. I had to talk him into getting monoclonal antibody treatment by pointing out that Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani had taken it. He consented and recovered. But he refused to get vaccinated and will not wear a mask. He’s 94.

So I will likely see a test in my own family, since he is very likely to catch the virus because he doesn’t believe COVID-19 is real, and will likely interact with people who are infectious, then bring it home.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

Gov. DeSantis asks Floridians to try Regeneron

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I've been reading the research on this, recently. The advantage of monoclonal antibodies over the vaccine is the lack of short-term adverse reaction:
Unlike with the vaccine...
1) your white blood cells won't attack and destroy your own cells infected by the vaccine. You will not develop lesions on your blood vessels.
2) there is no spike protein to act as a vascular toxin
3) there is no spike protein to cause platelets to coagulate
4) there is no inflammatory agent.
5) there are no artificial lipoprotein ingredients that will stay in your body indefinitely, with no natural means of elimination.

However...

There is still the very big problem of antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). 1) If the antibody dose is too weak, then it will make you more vulnerable (more vulnerable than having nothing at all).
2) If the virus mutates too much between development and injection it will make you more vulnerable.
3) Eventually, when the antibodies start to diminish to non-neutralizing levels, they will make you more vulnerable. This is unavoidable for anyone who gets this treatment. You will eventually become vulnerable by ADE even if they get it right.

By "vulnerable," I mean that it will either make you more likely to get the disease, or it will make the symptoms worse. In animal studies it killed the test animals.

 

[rlvaughn]

nonaeroterraqueous, welcome to the Baptist Board. I hope you find it helpful.

 

[JonC]

Vaccines RELY on your body’s immune system. All they do is activate it to attack certain types of dangers by “showing” your body what it looks like.

Therefore, your body will develop antibodies that will be ready to attack the novel virus from the very first moment instead of having to figure out how to respond while the body is getting quickly overwhelmed.

The only thing “unnatural” is the introduction of the simulated threat.

I have to wonder about the qualifications of so-called experts who don’t understand the very basics of the way vaccines work.

Dr. Saphier is a radiologist (she is the director of breast imaging at MSK). It's like asking a podiatrist his opinion on neurological procedures.

Next thing you know they'll be relying on Dr. Phil

 

[Reynolds]

Dr. Saphier is a radiologist (she is the director of breast imaging at MSK). It's like asking a podiatrist his opinion on neurological procedures.

Next thing you know they'll be relying on Dr. Phil

She is probably seeing the effects in the breast images.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

nonaeroterraqueous, welcome to the Baptist Board. I hope you find it helpful.

I have very much found it helpful. I watched this board for a long time, collecting internet links and videos about COVID and vaccines. It's been very helpful for refining my understanding of the subject and relaying that information to others. I've managed to change a few minds because of it.

I do still have to find my own scientific research for further reading. That sort of thing tends to be interesting and boring at the same time.

 

[Wingman68]

She is probably seeing the effects in the breast images.

Not only that but all drs are trained in all things before they specialize. It is really revealing to see Jon laugh about it. The left even tries to destroy an inventor or creator of their vax when they venture from the narrative. Willful ignorance.

 

[JonC]

She is probably seeing the effects in the breast images.

No, that doesn't make sense. First, she wouldn't be able to see the effects in those images. But second, she dies not take ir examine images (she is the director.....her seeing patients stopped before covid hit).

She is a pretty Dr. Phil, giving a "doc" title to Fox for credible.

I do not trust Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc....mainstream media is corrupt. Now they just take a side.

 

[Wingman68]

No, that doesn't make sense. First, she wouldn't be able to see the effects in those images. But second, she dies not take ir examine images (she is the director.....her seeing patients stopped before covid hit).

She is a pretty Dr. Phil, giving a "doc" title to Fox for credible.

I do not trust Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc....mainstream media is corrupt. Now they just take a side.

Sounds like Fauci. Did he ever see a patient in his life? He’s been busy acquiring patents for what he advocates for, & sending our money to Wuhan, or to torture beagles in a study that had already been completed on parasites, the beagles howled in torture before being euthanized, but he probably had some buddies in that lab that needed a kiss……kind of like how the rest of our government employees enrich themselves while ‘representing’ the people.
I watch zero ‘news’, even local. Even radio commercials are carpet bombed with government funded propaganda. Good thing I have always had low blood pressure.

 

[Revmitchell]

She is probably seeing the effects in the breast images.

setting aside his adhominem his credibility about hers is as he says hers is

 

[JonC]

Sounds like Fauci. Did he ever see a patient in his life? He’s been busy acquiring patents for what he advocates for, & sending our money to Wuhan, or to torture beagles in a study that had already been completed on parasites, the beagles howled in torture before being euthanized, but he probably had some buddies in that lab that needed a kiss……kind of like how the rest of our government employees enrich themselves while ‘representing’ the people.
I watch zero ‘news’, even local. Even radio commercials are carpet bombed with government funded propaganda. Good thing I have always had low blood pressure.

Yep. I pretty much equate her with Fauci in terms of roles. Both are tools.

The difference is Fauci is a scientist and immunologist (at least he has the education and experience.....he knows his stuff) BUT both are just political tools.

 

[Reynolds]

setting aside his adhominem his credibility about hers is as he says hers is

I was serious. My wife went for a mammogram couple weeks ago. They asked if she had been vaccinated when she made appointment. She asked why they wanted to know. She was told if you have been vaccinated in last three months, they recommend waiting because most of the imaging they have done on anyone vaccinated in last three months fits the category of abnormal and has to be redone. After 3 months, image is normal.

 

[Reynolds]

No, that doesn't make sense. First, she wouldn't be able to see the effects in those images. But second, she dies not take ir examine images (she is the director.....her seeing patients stopped before covid hit).

She is a pretty Dr. Phil, giving a "doc" title to Fox for credible.

I do not trust Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc....mainstream media is corrupt. Now they just take a side.

If you say so. I disagree. You might want to research the topic yourself. If you friends with a radiologist, ask him.

 

[SGO]

At least here there is some free exchange of ideas.
Not censored like on MSM.

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Who Owns the Media?

 

[JonC]

If you say so. I disagree. You might want to research the topic yourself. If you friends with a radiologist, ask him.

I am friends with a radiologist. He confirmed that they have a very limited knowledge of virology. They focus on radiology.

 

[Reynolds]

I am friends with a radiologist. He confirmed that they have a very limited knowledge of virology. They focus on radiology.

Ask him about mammograms. I have only heard about that from the imaging center who does my wife's mammograms. Would like another opinion/confirmation/ refutation.