Dress as opposite sex.

SFIC is correct. I have studied this extensively and fully agree with what he said. Otherwise, I don't care what people wear. And I will not be deceived either, because I realize we are all totally depraved. There but for the Grace of God go I.:godisgood:

 

SFIC,

You have the meaning of "Pertaineth" right, but still the application you're making doesn't fit. The verse flat out says men are not to wear women's clothes. There are no qualifiers regarding war or anything else.

 

Lots of Jewish people in Reedsport? (A nice tourist town). Why should pork chop eating gentiles get upset over cross dressing?

 

Okay, I was only part right.

From K&D

As the property of a neighbour was to be sacred in the estimation of an Israelite, so also the divine distinction of the sexes, which was kept sacred in civil life by the clothing peculiar to each sex, was to be not less but even more sacredly observed. “There shall not be man's things upon a woman, and a man shall not put on a woman's clothes.” כּלי does not signify clothing merely, nor arms only, but includes every kind of domestic and other utensils (as in Exo_22:6; Lev_11:32; Lev_13:49). The immediate design of this prohibition was not to prevent licentiousness, or to oppose idolatrous practices (the proofs which Spencer has adduced of the existence of such usages among heathen nations are very far-fetched); but to maintain the sanctity of that distinction of the sexes which was established by the creation of man and woman, and in relation to which Israel was not to sin. Every violation or wiping out of this distinction - such even, for example, as the emancipation of a woman - was unnatural, and therefore an abomination in the sight of God.

 

These verses you give have nothing to do with wearing clothes of the opposite sex, nunatak.

 

Oh, stop it. I was referring to calling "pants on women" a sin...not the original story. Quit trying to twist my words into something I didn't say.

Man, what is it this week with some of you?

 

This thread seems to be missing the element that the passages which specifically mention one gender wearing what 'pertains' to the other are all Old Testament. To be consistent with why I don't regard sabbath observance or kosher laws as required of NT Christians, I don't think this topic has any such requirement either. It's really just a matter of taste. Besides, I have seen, and been in, dramas of biblical themes, and the costumes I wore were definitely more like a dress than anything a (normal) man would wear; and so were the robes of the time and culture of the Bible.

 

Yep. Quite sure. Am I suggesting we get rid of creation? I think that's a useless endeavor, since we could use nothing to get rid of this big creation that ain't a part thereof.

Am I saying one of the "Ten Commandments" is now invalid. For Christians, yes. Romans 14:5,6; Colossians 2:16.

 

If what you are saying is correct, then we do have to circumcise our baby boys or any converts, we cannot eat pork, shellfish, or hamburger helper, and we should have to put blood on our doors in a couple of weeks.

But scripture makes is plain we can eat what we want, circumcision is contraindicated because it obligates us to "obey the full law"-- which Paul refers to with the negative connotation that Christ is then no use to us-- and the days, seasons, or festivals we make up our own minds about and refuse to accept anyone's judgement about them-- which I'm doing right here, bud.

 

Alcott, Mr. Scribe likes to put people under the law. That's his thing.

I figure God has much bigger fish to fry to worry about if the clothing we wear is culturally defined (by humans btw) as belonging to one gender or the other. Kilts, for example, could be confused for a skirt, but are not considered feminine. I also figure he probably doesn't care much about a lot of other things people get themselves all worked up about.

 

Which is contradictory to your "God in a Box" view of the creator anyway. And what does water have to do with anything? I guess I am such concentrated goodness that I have to be mixed with water.