Drinking Alcohol Poll--

According to the book of Leviticus alcoholic wine would not have been allowed in the tabernacle of the congregation. The priests were not allowed to have it.

Is the 'real wine' you speak of non-fermented? If not, you are not following Biblical teaching that you claim to follow.

The command for the priest to not drink fermented wine, nor his sons, was for all their generations. Why would God allow others to take alcoholic beverages into the congregation when the priests were forbidden? God is no respector of persons.

Besides, if you are saved, the Word of God says you are a royal priesthood. If you are of the royal priesthood, alcoholic wine would be forbidden.

 

Nowhere does Scripture say Christ made a fermented wine... NOWHERE. You are adding to Scripture to fit your belief. But Scripture clearly shows it was a non alcoholic wine Jesus created. Historical texts also prove that non-fermented wine was preferred in that day. Since Jesus was said to have produced 'the best wine', it had to have been non fermented.

Fermented wine is forbidden. Sorry you are blinded to that truth by your preconceived misconceptions.

 

Even if that was the case, how would that apply to us or to Christ?

We are not part of the Levitical priesthood. As far as I know, I am not a son of the Levites.

Christ was and is a priest after the order of Melchesidec, not Levi.

We are not beholden to what the old law priests were.

 

Please note that if the priests were expressly forbidden alcoholic beverages, that means that the other people in the tribes were not forbidden! Otherwise the prohibition would have been blanket, for all. As it was, it was only for the priests.

As far as the royal priesthood is concerned, if you read your Bible, you might find that is being addressed to the Jews. We are the Bride of Christ. That is different.

 

1. To use your phrase, "Nowhere does Scripture say Christ made an unfermented wine... NOWHERE. You are adding to Scripture to fit your belief."

2. Oh, it had to be? Well, that settles that then. Cause, we all know that there is no such thing as good tasting fermented wine.:BangHead:

You, know I have kind of enjoyed this conversation. You are about as stubborn as me.:thumbs: But, in order to avoid any perceived notion that we are bickering, I'll bow out of the conversation, knowing full well that I haven't converted you, but that you haven't converted me right back. So, there.:laugh:

:wavey:

 

Historical texts prove quite the opposite--that fermented wine (albeit diluted) was preferred.

 

Produce the text reference, readmore. I have already given several Historical references where unfermented wine was served and preferred.

Where is your proof? What books? What Historians?

 

I would laugh at what we're talking about now...


Proof...on an alcohol thread....

But, since humor ain't allowed on this thread, I'll not laugh.

(I'll just grin, big-like).

 

And I'll just gin, big-like:laugh:

 

I would have liked to have voted in this poll, but it is closed (why such a small window?). I would have chosen the last option: "I do not drink and don't consider it a sin in and of itself."

 

ummmm wait a minute, Standing. When I went to other sources for information on the rain and Noah thread, you accused me of using worldly wisdom and not sticking to Bible. Me thinks you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth?

Which is it? Bible only or a little of the knowledge we pick up on the side....like computers, cars....you know, the things I'm sure you NEVER use because you are Bible only and refuse to indulge in the world's wisdom.

Sorry about the sarcasm, but you are not playing straight!

 

Bumped because Helen's question deserves to be answered.

 

Helen, your information does not back up what the Word of God says concerning how the earth was watered before the flood.

If it does not line up with the Word of God, it is worldly.

My information I have cited does back up the Word of God. It shows that wine was made and preserved that was not alcoholic in content. The context of where the word "wine" in the Word of God shows fermented or non fermented and Historical writings from that era strengthen that fact.

Your information that you have cited is not historical records from that era and cannot be used to strengthen your theory of what happened in that era at all.

 

OK, he answered it.... can we put these silly threads to rest?

 

Now we know.

"Wine" in the Bible doesn't really mean "wine." If the Bible says something bad about "wine" that's when it really means "wine." But if the Bible says something good about "wine" then it really means grape juice, not "wine."

Got it??

Can we all just nod our heads in agreement?

 

:laugh: ..... ..... :laugh: ​

 

Hogwash or Bull manure, whichever you prefer.

 

Yes indeed!

Just more proof that people superimpose their own pet ideas as an overlay of the Bible.

 

I agree... to say it rained before the flood is hogwash since the Word of God does not substantiate that claim.