Drinking Alcohol Poll--

The picture you posted is ugly and so is the remark.

Proverbs are in the Bible, therefore they are commands--Proverbs is a book of wisdom.

Proverbs 2:1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

Proverbs 7:1 My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee.

 

I didn't read the remarks with the picture. I don't agree with the personal ones directed at Ron.

But I don't have a problem with the picture.

 

Proverbs are commands? Do you heed the one that says "Give strong drink to him who is perishing, And wine to him whose life is bitter. Let him drink and forget his poverty And remember his trouble no more"? (ch.31, vv.6-7)

 

Anyone who thinks that fantastic photo is ugly doesn't have any sense of the beauty we see all around us. Nicely composed and wonderful color. I only wish I had taken it. Comments like that only serve to ruin what little credibility you may have.

 

Fermented or unfermented pomegranite juice?? :wavey:

 

:thumbs: Alcott, apparently some only pick and choose verses to support a pet theory of their own, attributing it to God. Something is very arrogant and even blasphemous about doing so.

 

You purposely posted a photo of a glass of red wine--why? You trying to prove a point? Nothing is wrong with the color and composition of the photo, but there is something very wrong with the object in the photo--it's deceiving and ugly. I don't find beauty in looking at a photo of a glass of red wine. If that ruins my credibility, so be it.

 

How do you know it's wine? If it's a pretty picture...it must be juice.

 

"Make it so." - Jean Luke Picard, Starship Captain

 

I can't tell if it's fermented or not. But Linda is our resident expert on fine wines.

 

lol!!! That is the best post of the day...

Ugly = alcohol
Pretty = Wine...

Of course, wine is not wine, unless SFIC and Linda say it is, then it is ugly...

The picture is BEAUTIFUL!

I bet it is welches!

Is anyone else craving grape juice?
I am.

BTW, how many people can you count in the reflection of the glass?
I counted 4

 

Wait...Linda's onto something. I just looked closer. You should too. Click here.

 

It seems as though these verses in Proverbs 31 are Alcott's favorite verses to defend his drinking. Are you perishing, Alcott? Why do you not include vs. 4 and 5?

Proverbs 31:4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:

Proverbs 31:5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.

Proverbs 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

Proverbs 31:7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

Why does the writer of this Proverb say to give strong drink to him that is ready to perish or to those with heavy hearts? Proverbs 31:6 describes the only proper use of an alcoholic beverage, which is as a narcotic to deaden pain. Verse 7 reminds us that alcoholic beverages cause forgetfulness and unconcern. If this is given as advice to the poor, it would be contrary to many other statements in the Bible. Verse 7 is given not as advice for the poor but as further warning to the king--—alcoholic wine will produce a drunken stupor. It is therefore to be used only by the foolish. If a poor man is wise, he will avoid alcoholic beverages entirely, will work diligently as Proverbs instructs (Proverbs 21:17; 28:19), and will walk faithfully with the Lord, trusting Him to meet his needs.

Proverbs 21:17 He that loveth pleasure shall be a poor man: he that loveth wine and oil shall not be rich.

Proverbs 28:19 He that tilleth his land shall have plenty of bread: but he that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough.

 

Yep. So are you.

 

Satan tempted Eve with the beauty of the fruit, didn't he? The picture is not to be admired when it is clearly promoting that which God's Word forbids..

 

There is no longer a need to give alcohol as a narcotic... we have doctors who administer drugs for those ready to die... medicines to those with a bitter heart. So the command to assist one who is ready to die and of a bitter heart is carried out today still as commanded by the writer of these passages.

In Lemuel's day, alcohol was the only thing that was available to deaden the pain of the dying. And for the dying was the only reason it was allowed... not for recreational purposes as so many of you try to defend falsely.

And your telling people on these boards that God condones moderate use of alcohol is a stumbling block for those that take that one drink that grasps their very soul and pulls it down to the pits of hell as it did my oldest brother just 3 months ago. 55 years old and a drunkard 30+ years of his life because he believed the lie that God allowed just one drink. He drank that one drink and it led to another and another. That one drink brought about a lifetime of drunkenness and poverty and eventually bit like a serpent and stung like an adder. Dying of cirrhosis of the liver and hepatitis C, his friends drank just one drink in his honor professing to see him in heaven one day. Just one drink. And people like you sent my brother to hell are sending many more to hell by telling them God allows it.

God does not allow it. He commands abstinence from alcohol.

 

No it ain't, Slick. Those passages specifically say wine and strong drink. But of course, it's obvious you are not a literalist.

 

Endless repetition doesn't make it true. :laugh:

 

God's Word has already made it true, Magnetic Poles. Receive it or reject it. It is still the truth.