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Those of us that belong to God (are saved) have a righteous nature (new nature). Ultimately what we choose determines our destiny. If we are those who choose to live for the Spirit, then we will one day live in perfection with no more sinful body to weigh us down. We will be given a new body that cannot sin, so we will be complete. This is all want it means to live in faith.
1 Corinthians 15:42
So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable;
Galatians 6:8
The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
Now think of the word ENJOY, it literally means to have joy and joy comes from God right?
So if you think about it, the ability to enjoy anything in the first place is originally from God.
This is why Hell is a such terrible place. Because Hell is the absence of God's goodness. So there is no joy. One cannot enjoy anything, not even sin, because the ability to enjoy anything is gone. So what activities do unrepentant sinners do in Hell, well the answer is certainly not 'enjoying sin' as some think. That is impossible because joy doesn't exist there.
Now about drugs Drugs. Well first of all natural drugs are made by God himself, and have a number of good uses, such as dulling pain and curing disease and sickness, or at least making a sick person more comfortable. So if God created plants that produce drugs, then we cannot say they are evil can we. Even alcohol is considered to be good if used for medical reasons.
See (1 Timothy 5:23)
Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
Now many man-made drugs are used to help people too, but if taken recreationally they become sinful. Drugs often just release chemicals that we already have in our bodies. Marijuana a natural plant when consumed or smoked makes our bodies produce a lot of Endorphins which are renowned worldwide as anti-stress hormones that relieve pain naturally. They are normally naturally secreted to remove stress or pain. They actually block the signal of pain to the nervous system. This reduction of pain causes a euphoric effect to occur. Now even Marijuana can be used correctly for those in pain and was actually used by ancient cultures when woman gave birth for example.
If however you take Marijuana regularly as a recreational drug, what happens is your body produces a lot of Endorphins which causes the High, but after the effect has worn off, your body actually produces less Endorphins naturally afterward, which explains the depressed feeling one may experience when they are not under the influence. Being under the influence of anything other then the Spirit is sin except in times when we need a drug for medical purposes. This causes some people to take more marijuana to get the high back, and then these people end up in a vicious circle of depression and high. But naturally speaking with no inducement from any drugs, your body will produce the correct amount of Endorphins and you should be more stable and happy overall. In other words every time you light up, you are really taking an overdraft that you will have to pay back in the form of less Endorphins i.e.; depression, later on, and any such activity is sin, because we are wanting to achieve something in our life outside of God.
Now about the question "why do drugs feel so good and yet only good can come from God", well the answer is in the question. All good comes from God, and God gives that good out in many different forms such as Endorphins in your own body or whatever. We can artificially induce those God created chemicals in our body, which will have long-term harmful effects or we can choose the benefits of letting these things happen naturally, the way God intended by surrendering our lives to God and finding the natural God given joys of life.
Jhn 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
Psa 144:15 Happy [is that] people, that is in such a case: [yea], happy [is that] people, whose God [is] the LORD.
Pro 3:13 Happy [is] the man [that] findeth wisdom, and the man [that] getteth understanding.
So why is sin enjoyable?
Well all the ingredients such as joy, sex, drugs or whatever are actually from God and are for us to either enjoy or are there to heal us. The sin is not simply in the indulgence, but the reason for doing it. E.g. God given natural sex in Marriage is a gift from God. A drug or medicine to heal is a gift from God. But if we have sex out of marriage, then that is a sin. Should God somehow make sex out of marriage not enjoyable, because that is not really logical. Same with drugs, they are there to help us in those times when our bodies are failing medically, but should God remove the high if we use it in a recreational sense. No the high is there so you don't have to feel the pain, regardless of why you use it. Alcohol is the same. Should God remove the relaxing effect if someone decides to drink too much? No, but the sin still remains when taken for purposes that are not of the Lord.
Remember that all things can be used for good or evil. A typical cliché here is a knife. We can use it to cut vegetables or we can use it to kill someone. Is the knife evil? No, evil comes from the heart of man. This is why it says in Colossians 2:20-22
20 Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules:
21 "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"?
22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.
So it is not about simply abstaining from things that God has made, but rather doing things for the right reason. This is why scripture says;
Gal 5:16 [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Rom 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Though we may not intend to sin when we take a drug for recreational purposes such as to relax or feel a little better about ourselves or to prolong our ability to stay awake we actually are sinning because we are using it for a purpose that is outside of God's purpose for us. God has given us many things in this world and they all can be used to glorify Him or glorify our personal desires. Those who seek His glory will one day be with Him. Those who do not will one day be cast into outer darkness. The choice is ours.
No drug should ever be taken for any purpose except to overcome pain or enhance in healing such as was spoken by Paul to Timothy;
1Ti 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
Those who are really born of God are those who are seeking His way and not the way of self or the world and these are those who will one day hear;
Mat 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, [thou] good and faithful servant:
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
The choice is ours. Choose life!
1 Corinthians 15:42
So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable;
Galatians 6:8
The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
Now think of the word ENJOY, it literally means to have joy and joy comes from God right?
So if you think about it, the ability to enjoy anything in the first place is originally from God.
This is why Hell is a such terrible place. Because Hell is the absence of God's goodness. So there is no joy. One cannot enjoy anything, not even sin, because the ability to enjoy anything is gone. So what activities do unrepentant sinners do in Hell, well the answer is certainly not 'enjoying sin' as some think. That is impossible because joy doesn't exist there.
Now about drugs Drugs. Well first of all natural drugs are made by God himself, and have a number of good uses, such as dulling pain and curing disease and sickness, or at least making a sick person more comfortable. So if God created plants that produce drugs, then we cannot say they are evil can we. Even alcohol is considered to be good if used for medical reasons.
See (1 Timothy 5:23)
Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
Now many man-made drugs are used to help people too, but if taken recreationally they become sinful. Drugs often just release chemicals that we already have in our bodies. Marijuana a natural plant when consumed or smoked makes our bodies produce a lot of Endorphins which are renowned worldwide as anti-stress hormones that relieve pain naturally. They are normally naturally secreted to remove stress or pain. They actually block the signal of pain to the nervous system. This reduction of pain causes a euphoric effect to occur. Now even Marijuana can be used correctly for those in pain and was actually used by ancient cultures when woman gave birth for example.
If however you take Marijuana regularly as a recreational drug, what happens is your body produces a lot of Endorphins which causes the High, but after the effect has worn off, your body actually produces less Endorphins naturally afterward, which explains the depressed feeling one may experience when they are not under the influence. Being under the influence of anything other then the Spirit is sin except in times when we need a drug for medical purposes. This causes some people to take more marijuana to get the high back, and then these people end up in a vicious circle of depression and high. But naturally speaking with no inducement from any drugs, your body will produce the correct amount of Endorphins and you should be more stable and happy overall. In other words every time you light up, you are really taking an overdraft that you will have to pay back in the form of less Endorphins i.e.; depression, later on, and any such activity is sin, because we are wanting to achieve something in our life outside of God.
Now about the question "why do drugs feel so good and yet only good can come from God", well the answer is in the question. All good comes from God, and God gives that good out in many different forms such as Endorphins in your own body or whatever. We can artificially induce those God created chemicals in our body, which will have long-term harmful effects or we can choose the benefits of letting these things happen naturally, the way God intended by surrendering our lives to God and finding the natural God given joys of life.
Jhn 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
Psa 144:15 Happy [is that] people, that is in such a case: [yea], happy [is that] people, whose God [is] the LORD.
Pro 3:13 Happy [is] the man [that] findeth wisdom, and the man [that] getteth understanding.
So why is sin enjoyable?
Well all the ingredients such as joy, sex, drugs or whatever are actually from God and are for us to either enjoy or are there to heal us. The sin is not simply in the indulgence, but the reason for doing it. E.g. God given natural sex in Marriage is a gift from God. A drug or medicine to heal is a gift from God. But if we have sex out of marriage, then that is a sin. Should God somehow make sex out of marriage not enjoyable, because that is not really logical. Same with drugs, they are there to help us in those times when our bodies are failing medically, but should God remove the high if we use it in a recreational sense. No the high is there so you don't have to feel the pain, regardless of why you use it. Alcohol is the same. Should God remove the relaxing effect if someone decides to drink too much? No, but the sin still remains when taken for purposes that are not of the Lord.
Remember that all things can be used for good or evil. A typical cliché here is a knife. We can use it to cut vegetables or we can use it to kill someone. Is the knife evil? No, evil comes from the heart of man. This is why it says in Colossians 2:20-22
20 Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules:
21 "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"?
22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.
So it is not about simply abstaining from things that God has made, but rather doing things for the right reason. This is why scripture says;
Gal 5:16 [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Rom 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Though we may not intend to sin when we take a drug for recreational purposes such as to relax or feel a little better about ourselves or to prolong our ability to stay awake we actually are sinning because we are using it for a purpose that is outside of God's purpose for us. God has given us many things in this world and they all can be used to glorify Him or glorify our personal desires. Those who seek His glory will one day be with Him. Those who do not will one day be cast into outer darkness. The choice is ours.
No drug should ever be taken for any purpose except to overcome pain or enhance in healing such as was spoken by Paul to Timothy;
1Ti 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
Those who are really born of God are those who are seeking His way and not the way of self or the world and these are those who will one day hear;
Mat 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, [thou] good and faithful servant:
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
The choice is ours. Choose life!
