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DT Just Playing Games

Zaac

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He thinks this election is a suspense thriller. WHo holds a press conference just to announce that after years of you saying otherwise, you now believe that Obama was born in the United States?

And now trying to push the lie that Hillary Clinton's campaign started this back in 2008.

This man is a nut!

Trump finally says President Obama was born in the US

WASHINGTON (AP) — After five years as the chief promoter of the false idea that President Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States, Donald Trump admitted on Friday that the president was — and claimed credit for putting the issue to rest.

"President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period," Trump said in brief televised remarks. "Now we all want to get back to making America strong and great again."

But as Trump sought to put that false conspiracy theory to rest, he stoked another, claiming that the "birther movement" was started by rival Hillary Clinton. There is no evidence that is true.

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it," Trump said. "I finished it, you know what I mean."

Trump spoke against a backdrop of veterans in a sprawling ballroom at his new Washington hotel. His statement of a few seconds came only after a lengthy campaign event featuring military officers and award winners who have endorsed him. Trump did not address the issue until the end of the event, turning it into a de facto commercial for the GOP candidate, as the major cable TV networks aired the full event live in anticipation of comments Trump had hyped hours before.

"I'm going to be making a major statement on this whole thing and what Hillary did," he told the Fox Business Network. "We have to keep the suspense going, OK?"

Clinton herself said Friday that Trump owes Obama and the American people an apology for his role as a leading "birther" questioning the president's citizenship.

Speaking at an event with black women, Clinton said that Trump's campaign was "founded on this outrageous lie. There is no erasing it in history."

She said Trump is "feeding into the worst impulses, the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country."

The birther idea, which he now denies, provided Trump with his entry into Republican politics and for years has defined his status as an "outsider" who is willing to challenge convention.

As late as Wednesday, he would not acknowledge that Obama was born in Hawaii, declining to address the matter in a Washington Post interview published late Thursday night.

"I'll answer that question at the right time," Trump said. "I just don't want to answer it yet."

Clinton seized on Trump's refusal during a speech Thursday night before the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute.

"He was asked one more time where was President Obama born and he still wouldn't say Hawaii. He still wouldn't say America," Clinton said. "This man wants to be our next president? When will he stop this ugliness, this bigotry?"

Hours later, campaign spokesman Jason Miller issued a statement that suggested the question had been settled five years ago — by Trump.

"In 2011, Mr. Trump was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion by successfully compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate," Miller said.

"Mr. Trump did a great service to the president and the country by bringing closure to the issue that Hillary Clinton and her team first raised," he added. "Inarguably, Donald J. Trump is a closer. Having successfully obtained President Obama's birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States."

The facts of Trump's actions do not match Miller's description. Trump repeatedly questioned Obama's birth in the years after Obama released his birth certificate. In August 2012, for example, he was pushing the issue on Twitter.

"An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud," he wrote.

Trump's comments speculating on Obama's birthplace have been seen by many as an attempt to delegitimize the nation's first black president, and have turned off many of the African-American voters he is now courting in his bid for the White House.

On Friday, Obama jabbed at Trump, saying "We're not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers."

"I was pretty confident about where I was born. I think most people were as well," Obama said during a meeting about his trade agenda.

Miller's claim that Clinton launched the birther movement during her unsuccessful primary run against Obama in 2008 is unsubstantiated and long denied by Clinton. The theory was pushed by some bloggers who backed Clinton's primary campaign eight years ago, but Clinton has said Trump "promoted the racist lie" that sought to "delegitimize America's first black president."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mu...-believes-obama-born-073502901--election.html
 

InTheLight

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Ha ha ha ha ha! On Wednesday night he said he didn't want to talk about it, then talked about it and said he doubted Obama was born in the U.S. He also said that it was OK if his campaign staff said that he believed Obama WAS born in the U.S.

I guess the guy just can't stand not being in the headlines, no matter what the subject matter.
 

Zaac

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Ha ha ha ha ha! On Wednesday night he said he didn't want to talk about it, then talked about it and said he doubted Obama was born in the U.S. He also said that it was OK if his campaign staff said that he believed Obama WAS born in the U.S.

I guess the guy just can't stand not being in the headlines, no matter what the subject matter.
ITL, he's crazy. And the media keeps publicizing him because it gets them ratings. Journalism is dead!
 

Don

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I guess the guy just can't stand not being in the headlines, no matter what the subject matter.
Of course; bad press is free, and what people remember. At the time they reach the polls, they'll remember his name. They may not remember exactly why (there's a list to choose from), but they'll remember his name.
 

HankD

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I can't believe the left took the bait hook, line and sinker again (to quote a cliche).

DT timed it perfectly, he waited for the liberal screaming talking heads boil to come to a festering head and he popped it.

Millions of dollars of prime time media across 2-3 days in which he held everyone on both sides in suspense.

Hillary and crew were shrieking "why can't he say he (Obama) was born in America"!!!

Then he said it on national TV, dropped the mike and walked away.
At that point he probably garnered hundreds of thousands of votes (probably close to a million).

In the mean time he attracted the attention of the undecided across the board.

Yes, he played them like a fiddle (to quote another cliche).
And they will probably bite again.

Give credit where credit is due. The Clintons have met their match in the art of "cunning".

HankD
 

Zaac

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I can't believe the left took the bait hook, line and sinker again (to quote a cliche).

DT timed it perfectly, he waited for the liberal screaming talking heads boil to come to a festering head and he popped it.

Millions of dollars of prime time media across 2-3 days in which he held everyone on both sides in suspense.

Hillary and crew were shrieking "why can't he say he (Obama) was born in America"!!!

Then he said it on national TV, dropped the mike and walked away.
At that point he probably garnered hundreds of thousands of votes (probably close to a million).

In the mean time he attracted the attention of the undecided across the board.

Yes, he played them like a fiddle (to quote another cliche).
And they will probably bite again.

Give credit where credit is due. The Clintons have met their match in the art of "cunning".

HankD

That's just it Hank. It wasn't cunning. None of his stuff is. This is 6th grade stuff and the media just keeps letting him do it because he brings in ratings. None of these idiots have any credibility left. That's why social media is being used by so many of the younger generation to get the real news.
 

InTheLight

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That's just it Hank. It wasn't cunning. None of his stuff is. This is 6th grade stuff and the media just keeps letting him do it because he brings in ratings. None of these idiots have any credibility left. That's why social media is being used by so many of the younger generation to get the real news.

It was a complete setup by Trump. The press knew it was coming, yet they couldn't stop themselves. It wasn't even subtle, but it worked for Trump. In fact, I'm starting to enjoy the way the press gets twisted into knots.

The TV news is basically where old people get caught up with what young people read on Twitter 8 to 10 hours ago.
 

HankD

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It was a complete setup by Trump. The press knew it was coming, yet they couldn't stop themselves. It wasn't even subtle, but it worked for Trump. In fact, I'm starting to enjoy the way the press gets twisted into knots.

The TV news is basically where old people get caught up with what young people read on Twitter 8 to 10 hours ago.
Indeed.
I just saw - TRUMP MAKES CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT - flashed on a news channel.

Of course he did. He salts all his speeches with at least a couple of controversial statements and the press goes after it like the proverbial moth to the proverbial flame.

Will they never learn!? People LOVE controversy.

His momentum will make daily gains unless they quit going after the bait.

HankD
 

HankD

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Patti Solis Doyle, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager in 2008 until the Iowa caucuses, admitted on Friday that a Clinton campaign staffer had, in fact, circulated the Birther conspiracy theory that Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and therefore potentially ineligible to serve in the presidency.

Continue . . . http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...n-campaign-manager-admits-birtherism-started/
And if they keep going after him with the Birther Conspiracy smear he will probably pull this rabbit and others out of his hat making the moths fly right into the flames and thereby gathering many more votes.

IMO As the election time comes closer all this free "bad" publicity will draw the attention of the undecided who will compare him to Mrs. C and past "performances".


HankD
 

poncho

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And if they keep going after him with the Birther Conspiracy smear he will probably pull this rabbit and others out of his hat making the moths fly right into the flames and thereby gathering many more votes.

IMO As the election time comes closer all this free "bad" publicity will draw the attention of the undecided who will compare him to Mrs. C and past "performances".

HankD
HankD

Stefan Molynuex in his video "The Untruth About Donald Trump" that I posted on BB a couple days ago said "Trump is scary good at this".

"I call it truthful hyperbole - Donald J. Trump"
 
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HankD

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That's just it Hank. It wasn't cunning. None of his stuff is. This is 6th grade stuff and the media just keeps letting him do it because he brings in ratings. None of these idiots have any credibility left. That's why social media is being used by so many of the younger generation to get the real news.
Call it what you will Zaac DT is a master at public manipulation especially of the "sheeple".

Those of the younger generation who support him (publicly or secretly) love him because he is anti-establishment not Republican, Democrat Conservative, liberal, etc... but anti-establishment.

IMO It is not so much the undecided but the secret followers (Bernie's orphans - these are they which are unreachable by land-line polls and therefore secret.)

These are they is which have the DNC brainiacs trembling. Hillary will never get them under her wing.

Remember his impassioned plea to Bernie's orphans?

There are no super delegates to manipulate and rig the voting outcome of the presidential election.

HankD
 

HankD

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Stefan Molynuex in his video "The Untruth About Donald Trump" that I posted on BB a couple days ago said "Trump is scary good at this".

"I call it truthful hyperbole - Donald J. Trump"

There you go. 1984 doublespeak in the year 2016.

BTW if anyone is wondering FWIW I will probably vote for the Donald as a vote against HRC/WJC(two for the price of one).


HankD
 

poncho

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2 Clinton supporters in ’08 reportedly shared Obama ‘birther’ story

Two supporters of Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign reportedly shared the claim that then-rival Barack Obama was not born in the United States and thus was not eligible to be president.

One was a volunteer in Iowa, who was fired, Clinton’s former campaign manager said Friday. The other was Clinton confidant Sidney Blumenthal, according to a former McClatchy Washington Bureau chief.


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html#storylink=cpy


 

Benjamin

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Trump has been talking about issues and all Hillary and the media want to talk about is this washed up useless birther issue. Very telling and quite a joke IMO. And this while Hillary relentlessly tries to turn everything into racial issues - Which makes this birther nonsense even more ridiculous because this would clearly be a constitutional issue. Yep, Trump called them on it and made his point about what is important. The issues facing our country. Period! Good for him!
 

HankD

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2 Clinton supporters in ’08 reportedly shared Obama ‘birther’ story

Two supporters of Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign reportedly shared the claim that then-rival Barack Obama was not born in the United States and thus was not eligible to be president.

One was a volunteer in Iowa, who was fired, Clinton’s former campaign manager said Friday. The other was Clinton confidant Sidney Blumenthal, according to a former McClatchy Washington Bureau chief.


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html#storylink=cpy

One more time they took the bait.

Trumps name was electrified around the globe embedded in this issue.

He has now publicly stated he believes Obama was born in the US.

No matter what permutation one imagines as to his true belief vs his words, etc... it doesn't matter.
He garners more votes just because his voice and image are one of anti-establishmentarianism.

That is what people see, are mesmerized by and are attracted to, the content of his speeches mean little, yes that matters somewhat but that somewhat is eclipsed by the strong and commanding anti-establishment persona.

HankD
 

poncho

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One more time they took the bait.

Trumps name was electrified around the globe embedded in this issue.

He has now publicly stated he believes Obama was born in the US.

No matter what permutation one imagines as to his true belief vs his words, etc... it doesn't matter.
He garners more votes just because his voice and image are one of anti-establishmentarianism.

That is what people see, are mesmerized by and are attracted to, the content of his speeches mean little, yes that matters somewhat but that somewhat is eclipsed by the strong and commanding anti-establishment persona.



HankD

Donald Trump has revealed to the world that the globalist's empire (establishment) has no clothes.

Like the man's methods or not like the man himself or not he has done what only the little dog Toto was able to do in the Wizard Of Oz. And he has done it in the face of overwhelming resistance and ceaseless attacks from the whole of the global "establishment".

Which of the other 16 or 17 candidates running as Republicans could have or would have done that?

In a lot of ways this election parallels the old classic movie Wizard Of Oz.
 
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