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Eating Out on Sundays?

SBCPreacher

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Then if you break a bone or have a heart attack Saturday night or Sunday morning, keep it a secret until Monday. Else, EMT's, nurses, residents, technicians, janitors, et al, may be kept from going to church (assuming they might want to).

Yeah, I know, I know. And believe me, I'm glad that there are folks at the hospitals on Sundays or the fire/police/rescue, etc. But if at all possible, I'm going to try not to cause them to work for me.

Again, it's our conviction, but we don't force it on anyone else.
 

shodan

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Love this line from that link: "Although true believers be not under the law as a covenant of works, to be thereby justified or condemned, yet it is of great use to them as well as to others, in that as a rule of life, informing them of the will of God and their duty..."

Exodus 20:8 “ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates...

This was one of John Wesley's major concerns about the decadence of his day when God used him to revive England.

For most Christians, the Lord's Day is their Sabbath of rest
[let the legalists dispute all they wish],

I remember my grandmother talking about church picnics down at the Fargo farm..."but never on a Sunday."
 
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Zenas

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Is there anything preventing Mr. Salty from cleaning the kitchen? :)

My wife has not had to cook a meal or wash the dishes for many years. :saint:
Targus, that was uncalled for. My wife reads Baptist Board and now she has lots of ideas for me. :eek:
 

Iconoclast

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Love this line from that link: "Although true believers be not under the law as a covenant of works, to be thereby justified or condemned, yet it is of great use to them as well as to others, in that as a rule of life, informing them of the will of God and their duty..."

Exodus 20:8 “ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates...

This was one of John Wesley's major concerns about the decadence of his day when God used him to revive England.

For most Christians, the Lord's Day is their Sabbath of rest
[let the legalists dispute all they wish],

I remember my grandmother talking about church picnics down at the Fargo farm..."but never on a Sunday."

Glad you enjoyed the link. I am still working through many of these issues myself.I try to view it in a positive way......calling the Lords Day a delight.
In other words we get to worship God and sanctify the day for our benefit.
it is not meant to be a burden.
 

Iconoclast

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All we know from Scripture is that New Testament believers assembled on Sunday.

There are no other rules to guide us.

Tom there are some verses that if looked at indicate how God changed the one day in seven to the first day.

1And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre,

1And concerning the collection that [is] for the saints, as I directed to the assemblies of Galatia, so also ye -- do ye;

2on every first [day] of the week
, let each one of you lay by him, treasuring up whatever he may have prospered, that when I may come then collections may not be made;
9there doth remain, then, a sabbatic rest to the people of God
10I was in the Spirit on the Lord's-day, and I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, saying,
Matthew 28:1

"In the end of the Sabbaths, as it began to dawn towards the First of the Sabbaths, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the Sepulchre."
It was the end of the old testament Sabbaths, and the dawning of the new testament Sabbaths. In the 'translation' of your Bible it may read first of the 'week' (an unfortunate translation) but the word there is Sabbaths [sabbaton] from the root Hebrew word [Sabbath]. In that verse of Matthew 28:1, the two words, one translated 'week' and the other 'Sabbath,' are the identical words, the plural of [sabbaton]. i.e., Sabbaths! We can understand why translators made this error, as it doesn't 'seem' correct to say, 'in the end of the Sabbaths (plural), as it began to dawn towards the first of the Sabbaths (plural).' But when we understand that it was speaking of an end to the old testament era of Sabbaths and the beginning (dawn) of a new testament era of Sabbaths, it makes perfect sense. We can readily understand (though not condone) why they decided to translate one sabbaton as week and the other identical sabbaton as Sabbath (singular), but in the Greek they both are the identical plural words Sabbaths. This is confirmed by Greek scholars, and there is nothing in the Greek text itself which would promote the translating these same two plural Greek words for sabbaths, differently here.
 

Iconoclast

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k 16:1-2

"And when the Sabbath was Past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had brought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint Him.
and very early in the morning the first of the Sabbath, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
Once again we see the language of one Sabbath being past (saturday), and they came to the tomb early in the morning of the FIRST of the Sabbaths (sunday). Very plain language that God is telling us of a new Sabbath day. Again, in your translation one of the words may read 'Week,' but both of the words are the 'identical' word Sabbaths [sabbaton]. God is alerting us that the old testament Sabbath is past, and with the resurrection of Christ, it's the start of the FIRST of the Sabbaths. What some theologians don't fully comprehend is that God knows what He is doing and has inspired to be said exactly what He wanted said. Every Word of God is deliberate, immutable, intentional, purposeful, and meaningful. Every jot and every tittle.
Mark 16:9
 

Iconoclast

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Acts 20:6-7

"And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
And upon the first of the Sabbaths, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."
Paul stayed seven days with them so that he could be there Sunday for Church when the disciples came together, had communion in breaking bread, and heard the gospel preached. It's not surprising that they would begin to meet on Sunday. Even though Paul for a time went to the Synagogues on the seventh day Sabbath and preached trying to persuade his brethren (the Jews who worshipped on that day) out of the scriptures that Messiah had come, they assembled (Churched) on Sunday.
 

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freeatlast

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Not the ceremonial aspects of the Jewish theocracy which have been fulfilled
in Jesus Christ.Acts15 col2. However the ten commandments are still in effect . Christians keep the ten commandments.

Maybe you miss understood my question. I was not asking about the 10 commandments. I was asking about the Sabbath laws. Are you saying that you keep the Sabbath laws?
 

Iconoclast

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Maybe you miss understood my question. I was not asking about the 10 commandments. I was asking about the Sabbath laws. Are you saying that you keep the Sabbath laws?

Dear Free,
Thanks for your response. I tried to answer you when I said this;
Originally Posted by Iconoclast
Not the ceremonial aspects of the Jewish theocracy which have been fulfilled
in Jesus Christ.Acts15 col2. However the ten commandments are still in effect . Christians keep the ten commandments.

What specific law or law do you mean? The ceremonial laws like OT Israel have been done away now. That part of the law as well as the judicial laws are done away in Christ. That is made clear in Galatians and Col. We are not to keep those laws now.
You write that you were not speaking of the 10 commandments...but I am.
They are in effect before the mosaic law was spelled out.
The ten commandments were a creation ordinance[ and I believe a new creation ordinance] and an eternal expression of God's righteous requirements.
So the fourth commandment fiqures into it.
The first exodus was the shadow, the NT Exodus is the reality.

I can expand on this if you like.....let me know.
 
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