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Eating Red Meat May Shorten Life Span

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Bro. Curtis

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What???!!! Where are you getting this from? I merely posted an article about the dangers of eating red meat. Everything else I said is fact, sucha as God not telling men to eat animals.

God gave us animals to eat. Everything that that lives and moves, shall be meat for us. God said that, so yer wrong.

It is a fact also that the animals people ate until recently did not have hormones and other stuff injected into them.
Nothing to do with anything. I don't eat hormone meat.


Who is telling anyone what to do? I'm asking questions and making points. Apparently, you don't want to answer except to make a caustic comment.
To answer a caustic question.

What about stewardship of our bodies and our bodies being temples? If you don't want to answer, fine.
Answered already. To say meat defiles a temple is adding to scripture. Show me some scripture to say meat defiles the body, or any temple. Show me some scripture that says eating meat is bad stewardship. You got nothing but humanistic opinion, and it doesn't stand up.
 
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Marcia

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I also meant no disrespect Marcia.

However my comment to you about eating meat came from your reply to an earlier post of mine:

I simply agreed, that God did tell us to eat meat and that God also instituded the eating of meat that we today call - red meat. :)

As for heaven, we will not reside there forever but will come back to earth for the Mil-reign and even longer after that. Yet even then we have no record of what God might have for us to enjoy up there (personally I'm hoping for batter-fried pork chops :) ) However the fact is we actaully don't know for sure what we will be eating, though there is definately indication fruit will be on the menu but it tells us nothing more even though there will be a feast. And apparenetly these bodies will be fully capable of eating even things like fish (as with Jesus eating fish with His disciple by the sea).

So there will be death in heaven/new earth? What about Is. 11? What about death being the "last enemy to be destroyed?" (1 Cor 15:26) and death will be thrown into the lake of fire (Rev 20:14).

"and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away." Rev 21:4


There will be no death.
 
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Marcia

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To say meat defiles a temple is adding to scripture. Show me some scripture to say meat defiles the body, or any temple. Show me some scripture that says eating meat is bad stewardship. You got nothing but humanistic opinion, and it doesn't stand up.

I didn't say that meat defiles the body. I asked a provocative question to maybe get people to think about it.

Are we supposed to take care of our bodies? If so, then we should watch what we eat, right? I am not saying you should stop eating red meat, but just pointing out this study that shows it does affect health.

You guys are really overreacting. You can't find a single place here where I say anyone should give up meat. Wouldn't that be rather ridiculous for me to say that? I know you all better than that.
 

Allan

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So there will be death in heaven/new earth? What about Is. 11? What about death being the "last enemy to be destroyed?" (1 Cor 15:26) and death will be thrown into the lake of fire (Rev 20:14).

"and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away." Rev 21:4


There will be no death.
What you give is speaking specifically and only about the death that concerns mankind, thus no more morning, crying, or pain and is why 'their' (specific) tears are wiped away.

Life can be defined in various ways: one such way might be anything that grows of it's own self. Meaning that of itself it obtains what is needed in order to continue its existance and growth. This would include plants and any fruit they might bear. Thus to pluck one much less eat one means a death has occured. Yet, the scripture in Gen speak of God breathing the breath of 'Life' into man and that when man sins he will die. Not creation will die but 'man' will die. Death stings only man and is bane and fearful expectation of mans existence, of which Christ Jesus removes both it's fear and sting.

Come on Marcia, you know these things and that the very passages on this you gave are specific to mankind alone.

PS. Not all of 'us' are saying you are contending we should NOT eat red meat. My portion was making fun of these types of reports (as well as those which come shortly after stating the opposite) and what all these reports actualy state as a constant fact is that moderation is both the key and the rule to our biblical diets :) However we do at times need to *cough* adjust *cough* our moderations due to issues of health that might arise.
 
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4His_glory

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And next month we will have a report on the benefits of red meat...
Meat is good for you just like many other things God gives us to enjoy as long as it is consumed in moderation.

Argentina has the highest amount of red meat consumption in the world per capita. It is not just a food but part of culture. Consider that that the typical asado (like a BBQ only better!) One plans at least a half a kilo (roughly a pound of meat) per person.
People here live just as long as those in the US. So I say ¡buen provecho!
 

Jim1999

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I think the key is moderation in all things. I am on a diabetic diet which limits my daily intake to 1200 calories rather than what I eat. The diet does prescribe certain foods for obvious reasons. If I want to have a BigMac, I must remember that half my diet is gone in that one hamburger!

You are correct, however, that the experts seem to change their "findings" every few weeks.

Cheers,

Jim
 

Bro. Curtis

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I didn't say that meat defiles the body. I asked a provocative question to maybe get people to think about it.

You brought up the idea that we were defiling our temples with red meat.

Are we supposed to take care of our bodies? If so, then we should watch what we eat, right? I am not saying you should stop eating red meat, but just pointing out this study that shows it does affect health.....
You guys are really overreacting. You can't find a single place here where I say anyone should give up meat. Wouldn't that be rather ridiculous for me to say that? I know you all better than that.

The title of your thread says eating red meat may shorten your life. Your opinion was stated thusly...


I imagine many of you will say, "I'm not giving up red meat!"


Your intent is obvious.
 

Marcia

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You brought up the idea that we were defiling our temples with red meat.



The title of your thread says eating red meat may shorten your life. Your opinion was stated thusly...


I imagine many of you will say, "I'm not giving up red meat!"

Your intent is obvious.

My intent? To discuss?

I thought this was a discussion/debate forum. And can't you see the humor?

I think the responses here say more about you guys than about me.
 

Marcia

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What you give is speaking specifically and only about the death that concerns mankind, thus no more morning, crying, or pain and is why 'their' (specific) tears are wiped away.

Life can be defined in various ways: one such way might be anything that grows of it's own self. Meaning that of itself it obtains what is needed in order to continue its existance and growth. This would include plants and any fruit they might bear. Thus to pluck one much less eat one means a death has occured. Yet, the scripture in Gen speak of God breathing the breath of 'Life' into man and that when man sins he will die. Not creation will die but 'man' will die. Death stings only man and is bane and fearful expectation of mans existence, of which Christ Jesus removes both it's fear and sting.

Come on Marcia, you know these things and that the very passages on this you gave are specific to mankind alone.

PS. Not all of 'us' are saying you are contending we should NOT eat red meat. My portion was making fun of these types of reports (as well as those which come shortly after stating the opposite) and what all these reports actualy state as a constant fact is that moderation is both the key and the rule to our biblical diets :) However we do at times need to *cough* adjust *cough* our moderations due to issues of health that might arise.

I wonder if I should start a thread in one of the Baptist forums on whether or not Baptists think there will be death in heaven.

I contend that when death is overthrown and "there will be no more death," that means all death, period. After all, God created the animals and shows care for them (read Job 38 and following). So death will be abolished except for animals? Doesn't all creation groan, waiting for its redemption (Rom. 8)?

Not only that, but death came to creation because of man's sin, yet you say death is only abolished for humans. That seems inconsistent, doesn't it?
 
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