Ed's Catalogue of KJVO Doubles

Here's a new one, suggested by the posts of a KJVO on this board: It's OK for the KJV to use pronouns when referring to any of the Holy trinity, but NOT OK for other versions to do it.

Example: 1 Timothy 3:16.

KJV-"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

NIV-Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great:
He appeared in a body,..."

More than one KJVO goes off, saying the MVs deny the manifestation of God in the flesh here, but this is an EXCUSE, not a fact. But we must remember how desperate the KJVOs are to find any excuse to attack other versions, hoping we'll forget their total lack of proof for the veracity of their own myth.

All one need do is read the whole chapter, especially V.13, to end all question of who the antecedent of "he" is.

And what about Revelation 4:2?

KJV- "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and **one** sat on the throne."

This is the reading of that verse in every valid English version I know of.(There may be a coupla words' difference 'tween versions)

Unlike the KJV, most MVs capitalize "one". And here, the antecedent of "one" is further away in the text, but again it takes no rocket science that it's referring to GOD. This is lost on the KJVO who thinks he/she has something in 1 Timothy.

 

What if I were to believe that the final authority was the 1611 version. That means all the later versions are wrong. What if were to believe the 1769 version. THat would mean the 1611 was wrong. So, tell us which version you are talking about.

Also, what if I were to say it was the ESV that was the only word of God, is that the spirit talking to me?

 

So does that mean that I cannot say that my NKJV is AVNKJV?

 

The KJV uses the term, "in his room" a few times. Now I pull out the Concordance, and see "room" has about 184 definitions. So when I want to find out which definition it means, I look it up, and painstakingly deduce which "room" they are talking about. This pleases the Lord greatly, I'm sure.

The NASB uses the terms, "in his place", or "on his throne", or something like that. They explain it for you. This makes the Lord frown, I'm sure.

A small example, yes, and I can now read into scripture a little better than I could three years ago, but for a dummy like me, making the Lord happy sure is hard work.

Brother Ed, do you preach anywhere ? If so, do you have any semons online ? I'm a huge fan.

 

Wow, the whole idea of this thread is awful. How can you guys treat fellow Baptists so rudely and unfairly? I thought you guys, as Baptists, fell under the category of Christian. KJVO people are just as saved as any of you are. Don't you people who posted on this thread see how you read to others who see these posts? You are coming across as self-righteous, pompous, arrogant and rude to anyone who disagrees with you on this particular issue. All I ever see on this forum board is underhanded insults towards KJVO people, denegrating their educational facilities, casting aspersions on their possible intelligence, and overall wondering how they could possibly be anything worth considering in an intellectual discussion.

Anytime I've met a KJVO person in forum boards they have been polite, willing to present their side in a logical, calm discussion. EVEN if this were NEVER true, does that give any of you the right to act like this? No, it does not.

Maybe it would be better if you devoted some of your time and resources to actual discussion of things worthwhile. The KJVO people hold to their view. Your petty forum thread on their so-called self-contradictions will mean nothing to them in the way of turning them to your side. And I'm sure it would only sicken any unsaved people to see such nasty bickering between people who call themselves by the same name.

 

Baptistgal;

Yes and I have seen them yelling at people on the streets. I have seen some of them in business lie, cheat and steal.

It's not about the Bible you read. But who is your God.

Sometime read the Bible and see how Jesus debated the issues in the gospels. He employed quite a number of things in debating people. Why do you think so many in the church are weak today? It's because they are afraid to be like Jesus. Remember Jesus turned over the tables.

The last time I spoke against those kind of practices in the church I lost my job as pastor and was replaced with a nice denominational leader. They like him but are not winning people to Christ. They are nice people watching others go to hell.

 

Originally posted by Baptistgal:

Anytime I've met a KJVO person in forum boards they have been polite, willing to present their side in a logical, calm discussion. EVEN if this were NEVER true, does that give any of you the right to act like this? No, it does not.

Yer new here, right ?

Maybe it would be better if you devoted some of your time and resources to actual discussion of things worthwhile. The KJVO people hold to their view.

And we hold onto ours. Nobody likes being told their bible was written by Satan's influence. Go back thru some threads on this forum, and see for yourself. And lots of worthwhile stuff gets talked about, here. Like this thread, for example. You may not like it, but it violates no rules, and I'll bet someone may have even learned something.

Your petty forum thread on their so-called self-contradictions will mean nothing to them in the way of turning them to your side.

No, but it gives us a good laugh. Makes us feel better. We are allowed to challenge them.

And I'm sure it would only sicken any unsaved people to see such nasty bickering between people who call themselves by the same name.

Like I said, go back & look at all the times the militant KJVOers have told us our bibles aren't really bibles. That sickens me.

See you 'round.

[ April 23, 2004, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: Bro. Curtis ]