Ed's Catalogue of KJVO Doubles

Baptistgal:Wow, the whole idea of this thread is awful. How can you guys treat fellow Baptists so rudely and unfairly? I thought you guys, as Baptists, fell under the category of Christian.

All Christians have a DUTY to combat false religious doctrines, especially those injected into their own denom.


KJVO people are just as saved as any of you are. Don't you people who posted on this thread see how you read to others who see these posts?

If they pay attention to what we post, and take the time to check the veracity of our posts, they'll see we post the TRUTH.


You are coming across as self-righteous, pompous, arrogant and rude to anyone who disagrees with you on this particular issue.

I reckon you haven't participated in any versions discussions among Baptists or you'd very quickly see WHICH SIDE engages in ad-hominem attacks and insults MUCH more often. The KJVOs do that to attempt to compensate for their total lack of evidence to sustain their myth.


All I ever see on this forum board is underhanded insults towards KJVO people, denegrating their educational facilities, casting aspersions on their possible intelligence, and overall wondering how they could possibly be anything worth considering in an intellectual discussion.

That comes from BOTH SIDES, M'am. And seeing how ridiculous some KJVO arguments are, I.E. "The NIV takes away Jesus Deity by calling Joseph His father in Luke 2:43", WHEN THE KJV DOES THE VERY SAME THING FIVE VERSES LATER, I believe we're justified at having a few laughs at their expense.

Anytime I've met a KJVO person in forum boards they have been polite, willing to present their side in a logical, calm discussion. EVEN if this were NEVER true, does that give any of you the right to act like this? No, it does not.

I beg to differ. Jesus spoke MUCH more harshly to some of the Pharisees He encountered.

Maybe it would be better if you devoted some of your time and resources to actual discussion of things worthwhile.

The debunking of a false doctrine is about as worthwhile as it gets, after witnessing to the lost.


The KJVO people hold to their view. Your petty forum thread on their so-called self-contradictions will mean nothing to them in the way of turning them to your side.

At least they will have heard the TRUTH.


And I'm sure it would only sicken any unsaved people to see such nasty bickering between people who call themselves by the same name.

While we don't discount the KJVO people, of course, much of our anti-KJVOism material is intended for the new Christian, or for those who may be seeking to become Christians. Shame on us if we sit silently by while some of our brethren advocate a PROVEN FALSE DOCTRINE to those who may be weaker in faith than you or I.

In this very thread, Mr. Edwards is compiling examples of the use of the great KJVO DOUBLE STANDARD by its advocates. If you wish to try to prove them wrong, jump right in. In the meantime, we'll keep on keepin' on, God willing, to defend His word against the attacks of the purveyors of bunk. He doesn't really need OUR help to do ANYTHING, of course, but shame on us if we don't carry out our duties to Him according to the individual abilities & resources He's given each one of us.

 

Nasty is as nasty does.

Welcome to the foray BG, your contribution is noted.

HankD

 

Ed, I may have one you want to add to your list, but I don't want to try to edit your book, so I will submit it for consideration.

Read the post and my answer on Questions From A KJV-Onlyist page 12.

The rule would probably read something to the effect that; "if you cannot understand the KJV; your pastor, the supreme authority on the language, is allowed to decipher it for you."

If you wish to add this, you may word it anyway you want.

Have a great day!
Phillip

 

Actually, you may want to re-word that a little. This may require a completely new section. That for Church Leaders.

"It is the RESPONSIBILITY of the pastor to decipher any archaic or difficult words in the KJV." or something similar.

 

Have you not read the Bible and noticed there are people who disagree with one another? For example have you not read about Paul and Mark? There are others too.

 

Have you not read the Bible and noticed there are people who disagree with one another? For example have you not read about Paul and Mark? There are others too. </font>[/QUOTE]Rude may be one thing, but why do you say fellow Baptists are treated unfairly?

 

Please qualify this before adding it to this astute list.

It is the responsibility of the _________(Fill in the blank with your pet sarcastic witicisms.sp?) to explain archaic words to those too slothful to use their dictionary, and the context clues.

8th Grade - Mr. Evans

 

How about this? 204b "If you can't understand your Every Version, go to your K-mart "Greek Concordance For Idiots", find the word, then pick from the multiple choice English possibilities the new word you like best. Finally, retranslate (Everyone is doing it and man does it make us look smart!) back into English, feeling so much more confident having gone to the "original".

Lacy

I realize it is wordy (perhaps to the point of being cumbersome), but I figured that would be a plus here.

 

Please qualify this before adding it to this astute list.

It is the responsibility of the _________(Fill in the blank with your pet sarcastic witicisms.sp?) to explain archaic words to those too slothful to use their dictionary, and the context clues.

8th Grade - Mr. Evans </font>[/QUOTE]What is the matter? Do you think I made it up?

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Originally posted by Lacy Evans:
KJV: Ruth 4:1 Then went Boaz up to the gate, and sat him down there: and, behold, the kinsman of whom Boaz spake came by; unto whom he said, Ho, such a one! turn aside, sit down here. And he turned aside, and sat down.

You guys are right. My 8th graders would really have a time with this. "Why is Boaz calling his kinsman a "ho"?

Come on guys, how often do we need to "update" the language. That's what preachers are for. I find difficult words in much of what I read.
The Bible shows us how to deal with archaic words. Learn them!

Lacy
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How do you spell "witicisms"?

 

Mr. Evans, you may call me Mr. Phillip. You guys hear the Mister word so much you think you deserve it from everybody. I don't talk to Admirals in the Navy like that.

 

Just caught me in mid-thought I guess. Ever since I turned 40 I find myself standing half way up the stairs wondering if I was going up or down.

Lacy

 

Ah ha, another
double standard:

The MVs take away words and add words;
the KJV only increases word count by
the process of spelling correction </font>[/QUOTE]This reminds me of another circular argument I've heard recently from the KJVo crowd. I asked about the italicized words in the KJV and was told that "when translating it takes extra words to explain it in the English language", by the very same person who told me that the KJV is EXACTLY Word-for-Word preserved from the originals (except it is English).

Round-n-round we go, where we stop nobody knows. But, I are gettin' dizzy.