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8 And Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed in the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.
9 And the Lord said unto Paul in the night by a vision, Be not afraid, but speak and hold not thy peace:
10 for I am with thee, and no man shall set on thee to harm thee: for I have much people in this city. Acts 18

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice: and they shall become one flock, one shepherd. Jn 10

1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith Jehovah. Isa 54

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; Break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: For more are the children of the desolate than of her that hath the husband. Gal 4

 

This deals specifically with 2 Timothy 2
I've tried NOT to introduce theology that is not specifically associated with the passage.

DEFINITION OF TERMS
elect = God’s chosen people

2 Timothy 2:10 (LEB)
Because of this, I endure all things for the sake of the chosen, in order that they also may obtain salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

2 Timothy 2:10 (NET 2nd ed.)
So I endure all things for the sake of those chosen by God, that they too may obtain salvation in Christ Jesus and its eternal glory.

2 Timothy 2:10 (NASB 2020)
For this reason I endure all things for the sake of those who are chosen, so that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and with it eternal glory.​

ANALYSIS

• Paul’s point in this passage is that Timothy should endure for the sake of the chosen.
• There is no time element apparent in this statement of 1 Timothy.
• Neither Paul, nor Timothy, (nor you or I), know those whom God has chosen.

Any yet, Paul endures and encourages Timothy to do likewise, in order that those chosen may obtain their salvation.

It isn’t Paul’s and Timothy’s suffering that obtains their salvation,

…the salvation became available through Christ Jesus.​

How is that salvation obtained?
Paul preached his gospel (2:8) despite suffering, so that the chosen might obtain that salvation.

Could they obtain salvation in the absence of the preaching of the gospel?

The chapter ends with a faithful statement which reinforces the previous declaration (2 Timothy 2:11–13):

The saying is trustworthy, for:
If we have died with him, we will also live with him;
if we endure, we will also reign with him;
if we deny him, he also will deny us;
if we are faithless, he remains faithful— for he cannot deny himself.
(ESV)​

Did the translators of the KJV reveal a doctrinal bias here...

if we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. (2 Timothy 2:13 AV 1873)
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Rob

 

There's nothing new about the faithfulness of God.

3 For what if some were without faith? shall their want of faith make of none effect the faithfulness of God?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment. Ro 3

 

Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Brother Glen