Election

[preacher4truth]

You, Icon, in prideful strict adherence to a manmade doctrine would attempt to change, downgrade, devalue the depth of God’s attribute of Love,

And then look at you. Quite pejorative in contrast.

Not a thing Icon said was untrue, nor ugly, rather it was Scriptural and accurate.

Please put and end to your pejorative prattle.

 

[preacher4truth]

Off topic, but I hope you guys are safe and not in any of the horrible storms today. raying:

We had some tornadoes hit just north of us and just south the other day. Other states are getting several tornadoes, i.e. KY and TN.

This weather is conducive to this. It's been fairly warm all winter, and add a cold front to that around here and it doesn't take long for a tornado to develope. It seems they usually come in the very early morning hours too.

 

[Amy.G]

We had some tornadoes hit just north of us and just south the other day. Other states are getting several tornadoes, i.e. KY and TN.

This weather is conducive to this. It's been fairly warm all winter, and add a cold front to that around here and it doesn't take long for a tornado to develope. It seems they usually come in the very early morning hours too.

One hit just a few miles from me the other day and killed 2 people. (TN) So far we've dodged them today.

 

[Michael Wrenn]

One hit just a few miles from me the other day and killed 2 people. (TN) So far we've dodged them today.

I pray for everyone's safety. We are presently under a severe weather watch (North MS).

 

[Alive in Christ]

Benjamin...

Originally Posted by Benjamin
God is All-powerful, but He is also Truth, and the truth of matter is that He could not have ever forced me or any other creature to love Him because that would not be real (true) love.

He brought love and promise of redemption into the world in truth and in grace He paid the price for all that He created and He denied His love to none.

He designed us in His likeness and with the ability to choose, to gain knowledge and to understand reason and He will judge us on that matter. God is all about Love, Truth and Righteous judgment as well as being Omnipotent; if for the sake of explaining “election” one attempts to short change (or remove 100% truth) from “any” of His Divine attributes to reach a doctrinal explanation then it is abundantly apparent that his/her theology falls short of being 100% accurate (truth) on the most basic of theological principles that should be held in the highest regard concerning both His Nature and purposes in creation.

Excellant post!

May its truth be discerned by all who are pridefully clinging to man made false doctrines.

 

[Alive in Christ]

One hit just a few miles from me the other day and killed 2 people. (TN) So far we've dodged them today.

I, and 3 other families just came out of our neighbors below ground storm shelter. We were experiencing VERY severe weather, and it was bad enough to send us their.

We have had tornado touchdowns in the area this afternoon and this evening.

Praise God He protected us and we are all OK.

 

[Amy.G]

I, and 3 other families just came out of our neighbors below ground storm shelter. We were experiencing VERY severe weather, and it was bad enough to send us their.

We have had tornado touchdowns in the area this afternoon and this evening.

Praise God He protected us and we are all OK.

Praises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Alive in Christ]

Yes. praises indeed.

I live one state above you in Kentucky

 

[preacher4truth]

I, and 3 other families just came out of our neighbors below ground storm shelter. We were experiencing VERY severe weather, and it was bad enough to send us their.

We have had tornado touchdowns in the area this afternoon and this evening.

Praise God He protected us and we are all OK.

Glad you're safe. We've hit the basement several times here. Last year when Joplin got hit, that's where we went when it was on it's way, and it's not too far from here.

We got a weather radio now (after the Joplin tornado), it woke us up the other night thankfully.

 

[preacher4truth]

One hit just a few miles from me the other day and killed 2 people. (TN) So far we've dodged them today.

Keep dodging 'em!

 

[Amy.G]

We're getting pounded with rain right now, with a tornadic thunderstorm according to Knoxville weather.

 

[preacher4truth]

We're getting pounded with rain right now, with a tornadic thunderstorm according to Knoxville weather.

Wonderful, hope you have a basement. Be careful.

 

[Amy.G]

Wonderful, hope you have a basement. Be careful.

No, but I retreated to my closet (my mother too). We've been under a tornado warning for about the last half hour. It's finally subsiding.
Whew.

 

[Alive in Christ]

Glad you're safe. We've hit the basement several times here. Last year when Joplin got hit, that's where we went when it was on it's way, and it's not too far from here.

We got a weather radio now (after the Joplin tornado), it woke us up the other night thankfully.

Those weather radios can save your life. I live in a small town and they actually gave one to every houshold, no charge.

 

[Alive in Christ]

No, but I retreated to my closet (my mother too). We've been under a tornado warning for about the last half hour. It's finally subsiding.
Whew.

Amy...

Northerners think we southerners are kinda weird.

Well, duh. If they had to contemplate on the possibility of ((Death by TORNADO)) several times every spring,....they would be a little *off* too! :laugh:

 

[Iconoclast]

May God forgive you, Icon, for your overzealous attempts to hold to such a doctrine which stimulates you to preach a message of darkness into the world rather than deliver the Gospel message of truth GENUINELY written to all:

here is a verse for you ;

1Give ear, O my people, to my law: incline your ears to the words of my mouth.

2I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
3Which we have heard and known, and our fathers have told us

Have a nice day:wavey::wavey:

 

[Iconoclast]

God needing to be long suffering to those He chose from the foundation of the world to not perish...and to be "willing" that this unperishable group does not perish is as ridiculous an explanation as it gets. Who is He longsuffering towards, Himself since He is the one who needs to quicken them to repent? No idea how anyone can believe this!

Webdog,

Peter did not think it ridiculous.....he believed it enough to write about it;
20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water


did you read the link webdog???

 

[percho]

Election.

Lets look at some verses backward and ask a few questions.

Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. Acts15:18

That the residue of men might seek after the Lord and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. Acts 15:17

Who is the residue of men? When does this take place?

After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: Acts 15:16

After what? Who will return where and from whence? Why at that time would the tabernacle of David need rebuilding? Just what is this about?

Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. Acts 15:14

Why did God not just take all of them? Why leave a residue? Was it actually God taking out of them, electing, or was he offering all of them and letting them chose whether or not they wanted to jump on board? Do we get to elect to believe, have faith? Is the choice ours or is God taking out a people for his name?

 

[webdog]

Webdog,

Peter did not think it ridiculous.....he believed it enough to write about it;
20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water

Of course Peter doesn't think it's ridiculous, he didn't view it from your vantage point. From mine it makes perfect sense.

did you read the link webdog???

I looked over it briefly, but was not of any interest. Page upon page to define "longsuffering" is not needed. Like I said, the book of Exodus deals with longsuffering more than any book or article on Earth.

 

[Iconoclast]

Webdog,

I am not sure I understand what you think the passages are saying...could you clarify



1 What do you think the long suffering is?

2 Where do you think Cals miss it?