Emergency Summit meeting

[Revmitchell]

Not if the world gets bad enough. The south wanted to susseed because of states rights the fed wanted to increase its authority. How different is that from many americans (including servicemen) want to sepearte themselves from a Global government and the gobal government wants to increase its authority and civil war breaks out.

First it was a different time and the issue was internal. Few want International control over the US except the far left. Apples and Oranges.

 

[tinytim]

First it was a different time and the issue was internal. Few want International control over the US except the far left. Apples and Oranges.

Don't forget all the other nations in the UN that would like for the US to be under international control...

If they were to come together...WW3

Obama is the object of affection around the world.. and he is a globalist..

He will give away America...

Thank God for the NRA....

 

[Agnus_Dei]

Apples and Oranges

Just as the North had no good reason to attack the South, the Government (Lincoln’s Government) had to “create” a good enough reason, or make the reason “personal,” to push the Union Army into fighting its brother and that was “slavery”.

Thinkingstuff has already, hypothetically that is, “created” a good enough reason for the US Military to fight its own brother…

”For another the US military may feel that these people who rebel against the financial system imposed by the multi-nation committees will cause further problems by their activity threatening stability.”​

Here in this scenario, the US Government will create the false assumption that the US financial systems stability relies upon the financial system imposed by the multi-nation committees. With this scenario the US Government has created a reason and has made it “personal” that will get them to fight its brother.

The Civil War was about States Rights, the Constitution, freedom and independence from the new Government of the North.

Those that would oppose this hypothetical scenario will oppose this “multi-nation committee” for the same reasons. And if it goes against the intrest of US Government, it will cause blood shed.

Hopefully, this will stay in the “hypothetical” column and the US Government would never allow a “multi-nation committee” to run our financial system.

In XC
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[Thinkingstuff]

Don't forget all the other nations in the UN that would like for the US to be under international control...

If they were to come together...WW3

Obama is the object of affection around the world.. and he is a globalist..

He will give away America...

Thank God for the NRA....

Amen brother.

 

[Revmitchell]

Just as the North had no good reason to attack the South, the Government (Lincoln’s Government) had to “create” a good enough reason, or make the reason “personal,” to push the Union Army into fighting its brother and that was “slavery”.

Thinkingstuff has already, hypothetically that is, “created” a good enough reason for the US Military to fight its own brother…

”For another the US military may feel that these people who rebel against the financial system imposed by the multi-nation committees will cause further problems by their activity threatening stability.”​

Here in this scenario, the US Government will create the false assumption that the US financial systems stability relies upon the financial system imposed by the multi-nation committees. With this scenario the US Government has created a reason and has made it “personal” that will get them to fight its brother.

The Civil War was about States Rights, the Constitution, freedom and independence from the new Government of the North.

Those that would oppose this hypothetical scenario will oppose this “multi-nation committee” for the same reasons. And if it goes against the intrest of US Government, it will cause blood shed.

Hopefully, this will stay in the “hypothetical” column and the US Government would never allow a “multi-nation committee” to run our financial system.

In XC
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I disagree. The civil war was not just about creating a crisis. It was about the reason the states rights issue came about..."Slavery". The country was divided over slavery.

The US is not divided over UN control. It is just not going to happen.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

I disagree. The civil war was not just about creating a crisis. It was about the reason the states rights issue came about..."Slavery". The country was divided over slavery.

The US is not divided over UN control. It is just not going to happen.

What happens if the economy continues a tail spin? And we get to the point of 1929 depression with no end in site? What happens then in todays world? Will we sell out?

 

[LeBuick]

It certainly sets it up for this. I also believe that there will be many in this country who will not put up with that. There will be a rebellion that will make the 60's look like Disney World.

I agree Rev, it's getting tough. I almost feel for any American's traveling abroad because we are being viewed as the cause of a world crises. Like we held guns to their heads and made them invest in America.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

I saw this title on Drudge. Looks bad

Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi said political leaders discussing idea of closing world's financial markets while they 'rewrite the rules of international finance'... MORE

 

[Revmitchell]

What happens if the economy continues a tail spin? And we get to the point of 1929 depression with no end in site? What happens then in todays world? Will we sell out?

Sell out to what?

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Sell out to what?

To the UN or multi nationals. Did you read the head line I quoted?

 

[Revmitchell]

To the UN or multi nationals. Did you read the head line I quoted?

The whole world is in trouble not just the US. Liberals may want to sell out because of their anti nationalism but they are really few. Most Americans are not going to lose their national identity. It was the free market and industry that got us out of the depression and it is the only thing that will get us out of this crisis.

I have to say though that Bush is scaring me greatly right now with all this government intervention. He is a huge disappointment. McCain has no room to say he is a maverick and will fight against pork spending when he just pushed this socialistic/communistic bailout that included so much pork.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

The whole world is in trouble not just the US. Liberals may want to sell out because of their anti nationalism but they are really few. Most Americans are not going to lose their national identity. It was the free market and industry that got us out of the depression and it is the only thing that will get us out of this crisis.

I have to say though that Bush is scaring me greatly right now with all this government intervention. He is a huge disappointment. McCain has no room to say he is a maverick and will fight against pork spending when he just pushed this socialistic/communistic bailout that included so much pork.

I can only agree. You're right about the bail out. I'm conserned that this will be an excuse to socialize the entire world.

 

[Revmitchell]

I can only agree. You're right about the bail out. I'm conserned that this will be an excuse to socialize the entire world.

Me too.

(You see I can be agreeable):laugh:

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Me too.

(You see I can be agreeable):laugh:

You're a Marine I can only expect that. :laugh:

Yeah but if the whole world socializes those americans who hold to the contsitution might fall into a minority. See where I'm going with this?

 

[Revmitchell]

You're a Marine I can only expect that. :laugh:

Yeah but if the whole world socializes those americans who hold to the contsitution might fall into a minority. See where I'm going with this?

Yea I understood that from the beginning but I do not see that occurring. American Nationalism is quite high.

 

[just-want-peace]

Rev, I wish I shared your optimism concerning the reaction of this nations citizenry, but I'm afraid I can't!

All one has to do is look at the fanatical devotion to the liberal politics just on this board to question whether there is enough common sense left in this country to successfully repel a highly sophisticated propaganda campaign from the left.

The questionable past and inexperience of "O" seems to matter not one whit to the "chosen", and his smooth tongue is mesmerizing the masses daily. Unfortunately, the supposed conservative side is only better by not nearly a large enough margin to suit me.

I firmly believe that this election is one more step to rendering the US of A to a 3rd world status and the only choice is whether to vote D and have it "now", or vote R and have it some few years later.

The only hope is a direct intervention of God and His mercy (certainly not justice --), or for the rapture to occur real quick, and let the yokels that want God out of gov't to experience the full effects of His absence.

Edited to add: This is one of those times I would like to be proven wrong, and the nation can/will bounce right back and continue to be the "land of the free and the brave"!

 

[Revmitchell]

Rev, I wish I shared your optimism concerning the reaction of this nations citizenry, but I'm afraid I can't!

All one has to do is look at the fanatical devotion to the liberal politics just on this board to question whether there is enough common sense left in this country to successfully repel a highly sophisticated propaganda campaign from the left.

The questionable past and inexperience of "O" seems to matter not one whit to the "chosen", and his smooth tongue is mesmerizing the masses daily. Unfortunately, the supposed conservative side is only better by not nearly a large enough margin to suit me.

I firmly believe that this election is one more step to rendering the US of A to a 3rd world status and the only choice is whether to vote D and have it "now", or vote R and have it some few years later.

The only hope is a direct intervention of God and His mercy (certainly not justice --), or for the rapture to occur real quick, and let the yokels that want God out of gov't to experience the full effects of His absence.

Edited to add: This is one of those times I would like to be proven wrong, and the nation can/will bounce right back and continue to be the "land of the free and the brave"!

The evils of liberalism seems so pervasive because of what we see dominating media channels, colleges etc. This is where socialists/communists flock to in order to effect change. With all the opportunities they have it seems there would be more change effected. But only little bits and pieces actually occur. Americans by and large understand that individual freedom means individual responsibility. Most Americans love this country and love its prosperity. They also understand how it came to being. Do not let the few who are liberal and evil and scream the loudest fool you into thinking that all Americans support their extreme and foolish ideas.

Most Americans are more concerned for their personal lives than all the jockeying going on in Washington D.C. Americans can smell anti-Americanism a mile a way when they are paying attention.

 

[just-want-peace]

I most sincerely hope you are right on this issue Rev; I will gladlyaccept being wrong !!!!

 

[LeBuick]

Do not let the few who are liberal and evil and scream the loudest fool you into thinking that all Americans support their extreme and foolish ideas.

Most Americans are more concerned for their personal lives than all the jockeying going on in Washington D.C. Americans can smell anti-Americanism a mile a way when they are paying attention.

All I can say is we will see Nov 4th. You did see the 159K that just lost their job last month? I think every time someone gets laid off you then have another liberal. People are voting liberal because THEY ARE concerned about their personal livelihood.

 

[Chessic]

Some of you seem to have more faith in the American public than I do. I tend to think this all will happen, or something close to it, with no revolt and hardly a complaint, except on backwater Internet sites that have no influence. Most people will know nothing about it, and not understand or care when they do. The media will barely mention it, if at all, and when they do, it will be given a positive, hopeful spin. And if the US government were to resist such a system, the prosperity of the rest of the world (and those who join this will indeed prosper for a time) would quickly cause a demand from the public to join in. Nothing is more important to Americans that economic prosperity.

I do agree with LeBuick about how many liberal voters are born.