Actually, some saw Him coming in glory at the Transfiguration Event, as a prelude to how he will look at His second coming
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End times thoughts.....
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1689Dave
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The resurrection takes place on the last day, followed by the translation (rapture) of the saints. Followed by the New Heavens (restored kingdom) and earth.
Jesus returns, rapture hits, he returns to earth, 1000 yr rule, than Gwt event, eternal state!
1689Dave
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Not possible. 1) his kingdom is not of this world. 2) the world to come is eternal without sin and death. Not merely 1000 years with sickness, death and rebellion. And there is no mention of any but these two worlds in scripture.
The Kingdom of jesus will be over all the Earth, so no war/diseasessickness, crime etc. Jesus meant that His Kingdom at THAT time would not be a physical one, as was spiritual one until installed at His second coming!
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1689Dave
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The Kingdom already covers the earth throughout christendom. But will be the entirety of the "promised land", the New Heavens and Earth.
There are those who take the millennial reign as reported to happen by John to be literally yet fully realized.
Those who do not, just cannot claim to take the Scriptures as valid in every aspect, but look for some human rationalistic approach in which John didn’t know, Paul didn’t know, Peter didn’t know, Ezekiel, Danial and David didn’t know what they wrote was completely inaccurate, unreliable, and totally not possessing physical authority.
In the last days it is given that there are those who will understand, who it is given to understand, and all others will remain blinded.
This is why the long dead scholarship concerning the end times was hidden, and for the most of them was unrealistically portrayed, and such had to then allegories the statements, unlike now those who understand can see the realism, the validity, the honest of the ancient writers.
Those who do not, just cannot claim to take the Scriptures as valid in every aspect, but look for some human rationalistic approach in which John didn’t know, Paul didn’t know, Peter didn’t know, Ezekiel, Danial and David didn’t know what they wrote was completely inaccurate, unreliable, and totally not possessing physical authority.
In the last days it is given that there are those who will understand, who it is given to understand, and all others will remain blinded.
This is why the long dead scholarship concerning the end times was hidden, and for the most of them was unrealistically portrayed, and such had to then allegories the statements, unlike now those who understand can see the realism, the validity, the honest of the ancient writers.
1689Dave
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The Kingdom is here now. But unless a person is born again, they cannot see it. “Jesus replied, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”” (John 3:3) (NET)
the Prophets foretold a Messianic Age, where God reigns supreme, and satan has been chained up, and there is no more wars, disease, etc, You really think that is now?
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