Eric Garner’s daughter posts address of cop at his death

[annsni]

No sadder than the systemic racially prejudiced actions of police leading them to kill her dad and other unarmed black men.

You repeat this mantra but let's see the facts:

The police did not go to kill this Eric Garner. They went to arrest him. He resisted arrest and due to the actions of the police and the health of this man (had this man been healthy and cooperated, he would be alive), he is dead. But they did not aim to kill him.

The other man was "unarmed" but was trying to get the cop's gun. He was initially shot inside the police cruiser as he fought with the cop to get the gun. He was not innocent and while he did not have an external weapon, he had his own body that he was going to use to attack this police officer. He had already done so and was coming back for more. If a bear is coming at you, do you not shoot him because he's unarmed? No.

There was no prejudice. Both of these deaths were initiated by the victim.

 

[Zaac]

You repeat this mantra but let's see the facts:

The police did not go to kill this Eric Garner.

You repeat this mantra. But Eric Garner was alive and fine before the cops choked him.

It's sadly hilarious that some of you can already assess blame to a young lady for something that might potentially happen of which her hands play no part. But you refuse to hold the police who choked a man in any way responsible for his death. Go figure.

They went to arrest him. He resisted arrest and due to the actions of the police and the health of this man (had this man been healthy and cooperated, he would be alive), he is dead. But they did not aim to kill him.

Yes, due to the actions of the police, he is dead. They killed him.:thumbsup:

The other man was "unarmed" but was trying to get the cop's gun. He was initially shot inside the police cruiser as he fought with the cop to get the gun. He was not innocent and while he did not have an external weapon, he had his own body that he was going to use to attack this police officer. He had already done so and was coming back for more. If a bear is coming at you, do you not shoot him because he's unarmed? No.

There wasn't a bear coming at him. There's that racially charged language where white people make black people out to be like big, scary animals. Embarrassing.

There was no prejudice. Both of these deaths were initiated by the victim.

Both of these deaths were initiated by the police. With "Get the F*** out the road" and by harassing someone not committing a crime. And in order to be a victim, you have to be victimized.

 

[annsni]

You repeat this mantra. But Eric Garner was alive and fine before the cops choked him.

Guess what? He was alive after they choked him too.

It's sadly hilarious that some of you can already assess blame to a young lady for something that might potentially happen of which her hands play no part. But you refuse to hold the police who choked a man in any way responsible for his death. Go figure.

Because words and actions have consequences. I guess dad never taught daughter this because dad didn't understand it either.

Yes, due to the actions of the police, he is dead. They killed him.:thumbsup:

As did his heart condition, asthma and weight. He also killed himself.

There wasn't a bear coming at him. There's that racially charged language where white people make black people out to be like big, scary animals. Embarrassing.

Hmm - I call my daughter's boyfriend a bear too. They are almost as big as one!

Both of these deaths were initiated by the police. With "Get the F*** out the road" and by harassing someone not committing a crime. And in order to be a victim, you have to be victimized.

Both of these deaths were initiated by criminals doing criminal activity. "Harassing someone not committing a crime" is a lie. Clear and simple. Why do you spread lies? The kid in Ferguson had just robbed a store and assaulted the owner. He then reached into a police cruiser and assaulted a police officer. I'd say that is not quite "not committing a crime". Nor was Garner innocent with him in the process of selling illegal cigarettes - the very thing that had him arrested 9 times before. He then resisted arrest.

You claim them to be innocent. They are from from that.

 

[blackbird]

harassing someone not committing a crime. And in order to be a victim, you have to be victimized.

The crime had already been committed----I guess what you are saying is----the only "window of opportunity" the deputies/police have in making an arrest is when the crime is actually "going down"---that once the crime has "gone down" ---- suspects cannot be apprehended and if they are apprehended "after the fact" of the crime----its called victimization??????


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[annsni]

The crime had already been committed----I guess what you are saying is----the only "window of opportunity" the deputies/police have in making an arrest is when the crime is actually "going down"---that once the crime has "gone down" ---- suspects cannot be apprehended and if they are apprehended "after the fact" of the crime----its called victimization??????


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Apparently.

 

[Rolfe]

The blood feud has already been justified.

You are as bad as Sharpton and the other Hate-Whitey types.

 

[Zaac]

Guess what? He was alive after they choked him too.

Guess what? He's dead now because the police choked him.

Because words and actions have consequences. I guess dad never taught daughter this because dad didn't understand it either.

I guess neither the academy or their parents taught the police that actions have consequences. And a consequence of choking someone is that they might die.

As did his heart condition, asthma and weight. He also killed himself.

He was living just fine until a police officer choked him and helped him die. Same thing as abortion and assisted suicide.

Hmm - I call my daughter's boyfriend a bear too. They are almost as big as one!

Sure. And Mike Brown looked like the Hulk and a demon. All part of the systemic racism and racial prejudice that white people don't like to acknowledge.

Both of these deaths were initiated by criminals doing criminal activity.

Bit of these deaths were initiated by cops treating people in a manner that they didn't have to.

"Harassing someone not committing a crime" is a lie. Clear and simple. Why do you spread lies?

Why do you continue to spread lies? If he was breaking the law, where were the cigarettes he was supposedly selling to break the law? There was no crime being committed. That's just the narrative the right wants to tell to justify the police doing what they did.

The kid in Ferguson had just robbed a store and assaulted the owner. He then reached into a police cruiser and assaulted a police officer.

According to the police chief, the officer knew nothing about that. So either the chief is a liar, or officer Wilson is. ANd perhaps there wouldn't have even been an incident if the officer had treated them with some common decency. But he was just a black animal who got what he deserved according to some of you.

I'd say that is not quite "not committing a crime".

That was a reference to Garner.

Nor was Garner innocent with him in the process of selling illegal cigarettes - the very thing that had him arrested 9 times before. He then resisted arrest.

And you keep telling that same lie. The man was not selling cigarettes before they came up to him. He had just broken up a fight. So if they saw him selling cigarettes before the fight, why did they wait to accost him after the fight?

You claim them to be innocent. They are from from that.

You read what you want to read. I didn't claim anyone to be innocent.

 

[Zaac]

The crime had already been committed----I guess what you are saying is----the only "window of opportunity" the deputies/police have in making an arrest is when the crime is actually "going down"---that once the crime has "gone down" ---- suspects cannot be apprehended and if they are apprehended "after the fact" of the crime----its called victimization??????

You're always guessing. I can say what I intend to say. If there was a crime being committed they didn't do their jobs TWICE. They didn't do it when he was selling the cigarettes if he was. And they didn't do their jobs to break up the fight.

 

[Don]

When is it ever right to do something wrong?

What part of posting the officer's information was "right"? Well, guess what: Zaac never said it was right; he said he's giving it a free pass.

Free pass? A "free pass" encourages further such behavior. If it's not the right thing to do, it doesn't get a "free pass." Saying you understand, is perfectly acceptable; but giving a "free pass" implies condoning.

Is the officer's information publicly available? Yes. So why is she the one making sure everyone knows what that information is?

Zaac's making excuses for the young lady. I feel for her; but her loss and sorrow doesn't excuse poor behavior.

 

[Zaac]

You are as bad as Sharpton and the other Hate-Whitey types.

So that would make you as bad as Hannity and Limbaugh and the other hate Blackey types?

 

[Zaac]

When is it ever right to do something wrong?

What part of posting the officer's information was "right"? Well, guess what: Zaac never said it was right; he said he's giving it a free pass.

Thank you.

Free pass? A "free pass" encourages further such behavior. If it's not the right thing to do, it doesn't get a "free pass." Saying you understand, is perfectly acceptable; but giving a "free pass" implies condoning.

It doesn't condone it in any manner. I'm just saying that given the circumstances, I can understand her doing some stupid stuff just as I could understand Justin or Jaden Ramos saying or doing some stupid stuff right now.

Her father was killed. It's still raw considering the grand jury's decision. I'm giving her a pass on this one. But she needs to stay off Facebook and Twitter for a while.

Is the officer's information publicly available? Yes. So why is she the one making sure everyone knows what that information is?

Why not? Anyone else could have. Her father was killed and the grand jury didn't indict. She's striking out. I'm giving her a pass. Like you said, I didn't say it was right and the family lawyer has already responded on her behalf. But she gets a degree of latitude right now.

Zaac's making excuses for the young lady. I feel for her; but her loss and sorrow doesn't excuse poor behavior.

Nope. I didn't make an excuse for her. I said I'm giving her a pass. She did what she did.

 

[Jedi Knight]

You repeat this mantra but let's see the facts

Al Sharpton don't need facts neather does his followers like Zaac.

 

[annsni]

Bit of these deaths were initiated by cops treating people in a manner that they didn't have to.

These deaths were initiated by criminals breaking the law.

Why do you continue to spread lies? If he was breaking the law, where were the cigarettes he was supposedly selling to break the law? There was no crime being committed. That's just the narrative the right wants to tell to justify the police doing what they did.

Interesting. Because Eric Garner's wife disagrees with you.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ays-husband-was-targeted-illegally-/?page=all

According to the police chief, the officer knew nothing about that. So either the chief is a liar, or officer Wilson is. ANd perhaps there wouldn't have even been an incident if the officer had treated them with some common decency. But he was just a black animal who got what he deserved according to some of you.

Hmm - so an officer being disrespectful is reason for a man who just robbed a store to reach into the police car and attempt to take a gun away from an officer, getting shot INSIDE the car and leaving his blood evidence there? Interesting. From that point on, he was not a jaywalker nor was he a robber. He was instead a threat to the safety of the public. Should the officer have driven away at that point? What do you think would have been the logical next step as a police officer, since you seem to know what should have been done.

And you keep telling that same lie. The man was not selling cigarettes before they came up to him. He had just broken up a fight. So if they saw him selling cigarettes before the fight, why did they wait to accost him after the fight?

Again - the man's own wife will disagree with you as per the link above.

 

[Rolfe]

So that would make you as bad as Hannity and Limbaugh and the other hate Blackey types?

No. Cite my words that would support what you imply.

To my limited knowledge (I watch/listen to neither.), though both have been accused of hating blacks, there have been no substantive quotes (like, "The blood feud has already been justified." -Zaac) encouraging violence attributed to either Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh. If I am wrong, please furnish them.

Shame on you for advocating violence motivated by hatred.

I said it before, and I will repeat it, You are as bad as Al Sharpton and the other Hate-Whitey people.

 

[Jedi Knight]

Shame on you for advocating violence motivated by hatred.

I said it before, and I will repeat it, You are as bad as Al Sharpton and the other Hate-Whitey people.

Yep,out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

 

[Zaac]

Al Sharpton don't need facts neather does his followers like Zaac.

The Klan doesn't need any facts and neither does its follower Jedi Knight.

 

[Jedi Knight]

The Klan doesn't need any facts and neither does its follower Jedi Knight.

The Klan,Sharpton and you are racist.

 

[Zaac]

These deaths were initiated by criminals breaking the law.

They were initiated by police officers being rude.

Interesting. Because Eric Garner's wife disagrees with you.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ays-husband-was-targeted-illegally-/?page=all

Interesting. That shows that some of you have a reading and listening problem as she didn't say anything about him breaking the law THAT day. So keep spreading that lie that he was breaking the law when you've got no proof of that.

Hmm - so an officer being disrespectful is reason for a man who just robbed a store to reach into the police car and attempt to take a gun away from an officer, getting shot INSIDE the car and leaving his blood evidence there?

You don't know the details of why he stuck his hand in the car. The only person who really knows is the man who killed him and either he's a liar or his chief is. That by itself is probable cause for an indictment.

Interesting. From that point on, he was not a jaywalker nor was he a robber. He was instead a threat to the safety of the public.

You're stretching to your version of the truth now. The public wasn't running to get away from him. The public didn't have issues with Mike Brown. They did with the police.

Should the officer have driven away at that point? What do you think would have been the logical next step as a police officer, since you seem to know what should have been done.

What do you think the legal next step should have been since you're so gung ho on the police shooting people?

Again - the man's own wife will disagree with you as per the link above.

Again, you keep stating that lie and apparently not reading what she said. At no point did she say he was selling cigarettes that day.

 

[Zaac]

No. Cite my words that would support what you imply.

You think I'm as bad as Sharpton because you think he's a got a hate-whitey complex just because he's calling for justice for the killing of unarmed black men. To go against that shows that you support the same things that Hannity and Limbaugh do for apparently the same reasons.

So if you can jump to me being as bad as Sharpton and the other hate Whitey types based off of what you think I've said, then I can certainly do you the favor of claiming you to be as bad as Hannity and Limbaugh and the other hate Blackey types.

To my limited knowledge (I watch/listen to neither.), though both have been accused of hating blacks, there have been no substantive quotes (like, "The blood feud has already been justified."

I didn't say you watched them anymore than I watch Sharpton. And I didn't attribute the quote to them. I attributed it to YOU. YOU said

It is the type of thinking that justifies blood feuds.

I said the blood feud had already been justified and it had. You don't have to think so . But Blacks certainly do as they are the ones the police are running around killing.

encouraging violence attributed to either Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh. If I am wrong, please furnish them.[/quote]

Furnish what? Proof that Hannity and Limbaugh keep white people just as stirred up about race as does Sharpton? Man all you have to do is spend a little time reading the comments on any story listed on FOX. All you have to do is listen to folks on this board

Shame on you for advocating violence motivated by hatred.

Man please. You can save your lie and stop trying to attribute it to me. Some of the other dummies might let you tag them with something they didn't say. But I'm not one of those dummies.:laugh:

I said it before, and I will repeat it, You are as bad as Al Sharpton and the other Hate-Whitey people.

And I said it before, you are as bad as Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh and the other Hate-Blackey people. SO we're right back where we were before.

 

[Zaac]

The Klan,Sharpton and you are racist.

If I'm a racist, then you and everyone else on this board are too. That would explain all of the racially prejudiced and racist comments that the lot of you make.