Eschatology

[kyredneck]

How does any of this matter to the sincerely striving Christian? I understand holding to salvation theology, but this?

It matters greatly to the future of our nation. The dispensational heresy now morphed into full blown Christian Zionism with strong political clout on the far right has already done untold damage to the economic future of our children and their children's children:

Warmongering in the name of Christ

 

[kyredneck]

How does any of this matter to the sincerely striving Christian? I understand holding to salvation theology, but this?

Used to be eschatology was a 'benign' or 'non-essential' branch of theology. With the advent of the dispensationalists during the 19th century and their heretical teaching that the Church must be unconditionally subservient to DNA Israel, eschatology can no longer be considered as 'benign', the extreme dangers of it should be obvious to all with objective minds.

 

[webdog]

It appears to me that you are straining out gnats.

He asked a perfectly logical question. Show where any of us believe Gods said 'oops' at one point and included the gentiles in his plan. That's the entire straw man you have erected, prove any dispensationalist believe such tripe.

 

[webdog]

And herein lies the basic error of the dispensational heresy, there is no longer TWO, there is only ONE people of God. The Church is NOT just a 'parenthesis', a 'glitch' in the scheme of things.

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice: and they shall become one flock, one shepherd. Jn 10:16

having abolished in the flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; that he might create in himself of the two one new man, so making peace; Eph 2:15

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek: for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich unto all that call upon him: Ro 10:12

where there cannot be Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, bondman, freeman; but Christ is all, and in all. Col 3:11

There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye all are one man in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:28

For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor 12:13

If/when the 'natural branches' are ever grafted back in, it will be to that which they were broken off from, and that is THE CHURCH OF CHRIST of the covenant of grace.

So which one of those are supposed to support dispensationalism being heresy? In context I agree with each one. Gods plan from the beginning has been salvation for jew and gentile alike by grace through faith. What's your point?

 

[webdog]

How does any of this matter to the sincerely striving Christian? I understand holding to salvation theology, but this?

It matters immensely! The entire culmination of salvation is the focal point of eschatology, the complete redemption of man and His creation. This is like saying why does the resurrection matter when we can focus on Christ's atonement.

 

[kyredneck]

Oh baloney, the focal point of most of you all is the adrenaline rush you get from the excitement of living in the 'last days', and your nutty speculating on current events. Kinda like kids with a video game.

 

[Revmitchell]

Oh baloney, the focal point of most of you all is the adrenaline rush you get from the excitement of living in the 'last days', and your nutty speculating on current events. Kinda like kids with a video game.

See folks this is what preterism does to you.

 

[Amy.G]

How does any of this matter to the sincerely striving Christian? I understand holding to salvation theology, but this?

2 Tim 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and

heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near.


If it's scripture, it matters.

 

[Amy.G]

It matters greatly to the future of our nation. The dispensational heresy now morphed into full blown Christian Zionism with strong political clout on the far right has already done untold damage to the economic future of our children and their children's children:

Warmongering in the name of Christ

What???? We live in a country which as a whole, couldn't give two hoots about God anymore. How can this supposed group have such power?

 

[Revmitchell]

What???? We live in a country which as a whole, couldn't give two hoots about God anymore. How can this supposed group have such power?

When you are an anti-semetic conspiracy theorist you say things like he did.

 

[webdog]

Oh baloney, the focal point of most of you all is the adrenaline rush you get from the excitement of living in the 'last days', and your nutty speculating on current events. Kinda like kids with a video game.

You come across as a grumpy old man.

If you arent excited about Christ's return, you need to do a serious gut check...and not so quick to throw around the 'heretic' label.

 

[kyredneck]

What???? We live in a country which as a whole, couldn't give two hoots about God anymore. How can this supposed group have such power?

Just how far up in the hills of Tennessee do you live?

http://www.google.com/search?source...p..1.41l27.0.0.0.8134...........0.Sf6G1EqRzrY

 

[webdog]

What???? We live in a country which as a whole, couldn't give two hoots about God anymore. How can this supposed group have such power?

Exactly. If anything Obama's trip has shown the world including a veiled Israel are pushing for what the Antichrist wants, a phony peace treaty.

 

[Revmitchell]

He asked a perfectly logical question. Show where any of us believe Gods said 'oops' at one point and included the gentiles in his plan. That's the entire straw man you have erected, prove any dispensationalist believe such tripe.

He cannot defend it.

 

[Amy.G]

Just how far up in the hills of Tennessee do you live?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...qf.&fp=2c205a0d8b7724bd&biw=1440&bih=721&bs=1

Waaaaay up in the hills! :laugh:

We'ins don't even wear shoes up here and our favorite past time is handlin' rattle snakes and drinkin' strychnine. We'ins even got us a still out back!


HERE is a good explanation for the 70 weeks of Daniel. Do the math. (I would but I'm too dumb cause I be livin in the hills too long.)

 

[kyredneck]

Exactly. If anything Obama's trip has shown the world including a veiled Israel are pushing for what the Antichrist wants, a phony peace treaty.

Egad, more 'nutty speculating'. So is Obama in kahoots with the 12th Imam who you were speculating was the Antichrist (you know, good ol' AC as 'you people' like to refer to him) a while back? Tell me oh prophet, what's going on? This is sooooo exciting.

 

[webdog]

Egad, more 'nutty speculating'. So is Obama in kahoots with the 12th Imam who you were speculating was the antichrist a while back? Tell me oh prophet, what's going on? This is sooooo exciting.

Not worthy of a response. Go back to yelling at kids to stay off your lawn

 

[kyredneck]

Awww, c'mon webdog, prophesy. Tell me what's going to happen next.

 

[webdog]

Awww, c'mon webdog, prophesy. Tell me what's going to happen next.

There is this thing called a television. There's also something called a Bible. Open your eyes. To call the desire for peace in the middle east and an eventual agreement 'speculating', you're in deeper than I thought.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Awww, c'mon webdog, prophesy. Tell me what's going to happen next.

Larry, 1st thing ...from indicators, this Dispy thing is on the wain & nobodies jumpin into it anymore. It just congers up ridiculous notions to most. So their grasp on the direction that this country is going to take in the future is questionable.

And if you read your bible you are told that you are not going to know things so this hysterical emphasis on this subject matter is ridiculous.

Lastly, if you take a trip North, there is little to no interest in any of this.....frankly we joke about how crazy the religious right is about any of this...its a bad Tim Lahay paperback that plays out none too well. And I am not participating in foolishness.