ESV 2025 - Change notes

[Saved421]

That's true, it was translated Lord Jehovah in the GNV.

Anyhow, the King James Bible is always right, and sidenote: Yahweh is not Jehovah.

Take care, farewell

Shawn

 

[Logos1560]

Anyhow, the King James Bible is always right,

The 1611 edition of the KJV was and is not always right since it needed several corrections. The 1769 Oxford edition of the KJV is not always right since it had over 100 errors. You fail to prove your opinion that the KJV is always right to be true.

 

[JesusFan]

That's true, it was translated Lord Jehovah in the GNV.

Anyhow, the King James Bible is always right, and sidenote: Yahweh is not Jehovah.

Take care, farewell

Shawn

Both names refer to the same God though

 

[JesusFan]

The 1611 edition of the KJV was and is not always right since it needed several corrections. The 1769 Oxford edition of the KJV is not always right since it had over 100 errors. You fail to prove your opinion that the KJV is always right to be true.

Those holding to KJVO always state only differences between the 1611 edition and any future editions did not involve any actual wording changes, just punctuation and spelling, but there have been literally hundreds of actual word changes in layer revised kjv editions since 1611

 

[JesusFan]

That's true, it was translated Lord Jehovah in the GNV.

Anyhow, the King James Bible is always right, and sidenote: Yahweh is not Jehovah.

Take care, farewell

Shawn

Those holding to KJVO always state only differences between the 1611 edition and any future editions did not involve any actual wording changes, just punctuation and spelling, but there have been literally hundreds of actual word changes in layer revised kjv editions since 1611

 

[MrW]

Dear community,

Apparantly the ESV is getting some changes, and I must admit (some are great.)

https://uploads.crossway.org/excerpt/esv-2025-text-changes.pdf

Great points:

Fixed desire to husband instead of contary in Gen and only begotten Son in John

Shawn

P/S What are your thoughts?

It won’t matter to me, because I will never own one. I’ve used my KJB from childhood to retirement, no need to change.

 

[Deacon]

It won’t matter to me, because I will never own one. I’ve used my KJB from childhood to retirement, no need to change.

I'm curious, why then would you insert yourself into a thread discussing the English Standard Version?

 

[MrW]

I’m just passing by and reading threads. Commented that it makes no difference to me and gave no advice to anyone. I did wonder if there were going to be significant changes, like restoring missing verses. So why does it bother you for me to comment. I would think a person would just glance at it and forget it and move to the next post or thread.

 

[MrW]

Besides, it was addressed to the community. I’m a member of the community, so I responded and was finished.

 

[Rye]

I’m hardly bothered by these changes in the slightest. I primarily use the NKJV anyway but if I were to pick up an ESV, I likely wouldn’t bother to check if it’s the 2016 edition or the 2025 edition.

 

[JesusFan]

I’m hardly bothered by these changes in the slightest. I primarily use the NKJV anyway but if I were to pick up an ESV, I likely wouldn’t bother to check if it’s the 2016 edition or the 2025 edition.

Irony to me is that the so called "perfect" english translation has probably had more changes and revisions to it over time then any other version

 

[Conan]

Every version should update when necessary.

 

[JesusFan]

Every version should update when necessary.

Question though is why would a "perfect" one ever have to be do doing that though?

 

[Rye]

Question though is why would a "perfect" one ever have to be do doing that though?

There will never be a perfect English translation since Greek carries far more data than English does. However, that doesn’t mean our English translations don’t communicate the exact same message as the Greek, with the exception of perversions like the NWT.

 

[JesusFan]

There will never be a perfect English translation since Greek carries far more data than English does. However, that doesn’t mean our English translations don’t communicate the exact same message as the Greek, with the exception of perversions like the NWT.

Agreed, was just thinking though why did the 1611 Kjv ever have to update though at all, as per the KJVO crowd?