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Ethical moralism and the New Avengers movie

JonC

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It shouldn't be that hard to understand the concept, all we need to do is consider the opposite...unethical moralism.
It's not a common term. I'm sure you've already googled it; there's a smattering of books that have used it, but typically it's used as a juxtaposition to religious moralism (as in religious and ethical moralism).
:wavey:Thanks…it’s been years (decades) since I’ve sat in an ethics class and I didn’t pay much attention back then. :smilewinkgrin:
Pertaining to or dealing with morals or the principles of morality; pertaining to right and wrong in conduct. 2. being in accordance with the rules or standards for right conduct or practice, especially the standards of a profession: It was not considered ethical for physicians to advertise.
That’s “ethical,” John. I know the definitions of those words individually. Ethics is typically external while morals are internal to a person. Moralism can be viewed as vise or virtue…typically vise. I am just not sure what you mean in this thread.

I am leaning to the idea that you are speaking of morals and not necessarily ethics, and morality perhaps based on religion in general and not true religion. But I am not sure. What makes it difficult for me, perhaps, is that you are using a fictional character rather than real life examples where we can examine the beliefs and history of the person. If my understanding is leaning to what you are examining, then perhaps a person such as Mahatma Gandhi would be a better subject than Captain America. Anyway…thank you for your response and I apologize for not exactly getting your topic. I'm still working on it. At least I did see the movie.
 
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evenifigoalone

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Captain America idealizes the America of an earlier time and decade. He was originally from the '50s, I think.
IDK, I'm not an expert on Marvel characters. I did see the first Avengers movie and liked it, was told that this new movie was good too.

Have not read the thread like at all aside from the first couple of posts, so I'm sure I'm not saying anything very important and probably not on topic by this point. But there's my thoughts.
 
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JonC

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Captain America idealizes the America of an earlier time and decade. He was originally from the '50s, I think.
IDK, I'm not an expert on Marvel characters. I did see the first Avengers movie and liked it, was told that this new movie was good too.

Have not read the thread like at all aside from the first couple of posts, so I'm sure I'm not saying anything very important and probably not on topic by this point. But there's my thoughts.

In the movie he does seem to represent a different set of ethics. The new one was OK....if you liked the previous ones you'll like this one...it was good. BUT….I have to say it….Ant Man created Ultron….not Stark. :wavey:
 
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Don

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I've re-read the OP several times, and I can't figure out who the unbeliever with a moralistic background was, who specifically the Christian was, and how the unbeliever outdid the Christian.
 

evenifigoalone

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Think he was referring to Captain America? The character professes a belief in monotheism, but is never said to be a Christian.
 

evangelist6589

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In the movie he does seem to represent a different set of ethics. The new one was OK....if you liked the previous ones you'll like this one...it was good. BUT….I have to say it….Ant Man created Ultron….not Stark. :wavey:

Not true. What evidence do you have for this claim?
 

evangelist6589

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Captain America idealizes the America of an earlier time and decade. He was originally from the '50s, I think.
IDK, I'm not an expert on Marvel characters. I did see the first Avengers movie and liked it, was told that this new movie was good too.

Have not read the thread like at all aside from the first couple of posts, so I'm sure I'm not saying anything very important and probably not on topic by this point. But there's my thoughts.

1940's is the time period of Captain America.
 

evangelist6589

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Ultron was not an atheist

Ultron made several religious comments in the film proving not to be an atheist. Can anyone guess which one showed him not to be an atheist? HINT- It is not the scene where he quotes "On this rock I will build my church."
 

Don

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Ultron made several religious comments in the film proving not to be an atheist. Can anyone guess which one showed him not to be an atheist? HINT- It is not the scene where he quotes "On this rock I will build my church."

Oh, this I want to see. Someone please answer him, since I'm obviously on "ignore."
 

Rolfe

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Ultron made several religious comments in the film proving not to be an atheist. Can anyone guess which one showed him not to be an atheist? HINT- It is not the scene where he quotes "On this rock I will build my church."

I have not seen the movie (comic books not my thing), but I understand that the director is an avowed atheist.
 

Rolfe

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Did a bit more reading about the film. Am I correct to understand that there are parallels between Ultron and the Devil?
 

Darrell C

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I have not seen the movie (comic books not my thing), but I understand that the director is an avowed atheist.

Me either, which is why I am avoiding this thread...it's gonna roon it fer me.

Somebody did mention "Ant Man," is that in the movie?

God bless.
 

Don

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Me either, which is why I am avoiding this thread...it's gonna roon it fer me.

Somebody did mention "Ant Man," is that in the movie?

God bless.

No, Ant Man is not in this one; they have a separate movie for him coming out in July.
 

Rolfe

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Did a bit more reading about the film. Am I correct to understand that there are parallels between Ultron and the Devil?

Not intended to be a rhetorical question. Am wondering if I am right by thinking this. Any help would be appreciated.
 

Darrell C

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You need to punctuate the end of your sentences correctly.

Don't say that, he may end up like some here who end every statement in !!!!!

I think the open ending leaves more room for a nicer interpretation, lol.


God bless.
 
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