Evangelical Republicanism:Exalting politics over Christ

Maybe the American people are sick of the bloodbath of 40,000,000 dead, including 13,000,000 black dead.

 

cmg....I think if that was true...then politicians would have already passed a constitutional amendment banning abortion.

Despite what any of us might think, I just don't see the outrage from the majority.

 

I have to admit that you make a very strong point. I should like to add that there is a great deal of money in this "industry" and that has given the abortionists political power, don't you agree? Don't you think that there is strong satanic power in the abortion industry also?

 

Looking at it from the standpoint of a lobbyist, and someone who has been a part of campaigns of both Democrats and Republicans...and attending State GOP conventions for years...I still think their is little outrage among the majority of Americans. A great number are against abortions personally, but they still want that option if their child is raped.

I've found that to be the thinking of almost all politicians, Democrats or Republicans.

 

RR, Do you think people would be more outraged if they were better educated on the development of the pre-born or with graphic pictures/descriptions of what abortion actually does to the unborn child? Do you think there would be a shift if articles like the ones coming out of Britain a few months ago got media play (studies affirmed that babies can feel and are aware much earlier than previously thought)?

I think that much of the apathy concerning abortion is that most of the media is made up of liberals who support abortion or conservatives that don't want to talk about it. FoxNews as much as I appreciate their contribution hasn't run greatly promoted specials on what an abortion is and does.

What do you think would work? I think TexasSky had a good idea... make sure people can sue the providers for malpractice and make the cost of doing business high.

 

If you were taught "revisionists history" like this 16 year old was probably taught then yea you would believe this nations wasn't founded on bibilcal christian prinicples. Friends it was.
At least 3 signers of the constitution were ministers/ theologians.
Has anyone ever seen that early 1700's reader primer? The whole book teaches kids how to read by using the Bible and Bible verses.
Go and read George Washington's farewell address.
Sounds pretty biblical to me.
Also if this nation wasn't founded on biblcal christianity then why did congress pass bills to have the Bible printed?
Why did congress alocate money to help missionaries?
Where did our christian heritage come from if our heritage wasn't christian?
I'm just listing a few things there is alot of biblical christianity flowing through pages of our country's history. You just have to go back before the 60's to find books that will prove it.

I'll use sources other than a pimple-faced 16 year old to research the history of our country.

 

I believe that this disconnect comes from the fact that the institutions have swapped places with regard to authority.

Our nation was founded with a very, very limited government. Our founders full well expected that the people would use their freedom responsibly and self-govern. They expected that most "governing" would be done by private institutions like churches then local government then state and very rarely federal.

Religion had more influence over "social policy" than the federal government by an incredible margin. The churches set behaviorial standards, provided charity, educated children, etc. They feared the very notion that government would assume any of these powers.

Fast forward to today and you have exactly the opposite situation. Government has these powers and duties... and the elite spread the fear of the very notion that religion might intrude on them.

Religion's "role" in the founding of our country was that its societal influence was much greater and extensive than that of government. One of the reasons the politicians then spoke so kindly of religion is that government was so greatly subordinate to it.

 

My, my, how times have changed!

No self government is going to be stable over hundreds of years WITHOUT God as the ultimate authority! Which, obviously, in our present gov't is not the case.

Only a moral society can exist by self-rule!

 

It's not a good idea for Christians to get involved in worldly politics. First if all, you really do not know who or what it is you are actually voting for. People say a lot of things just to get votes and then turn around and do something else. Do you really want to be held responsible by God for lending your influence in favor of everything the person you vote for is going to do while in office?

Secondly, exactly who's idea of religion is going to end up inevitably ruling? Would you like the Catholic Church telling you what to do? It's too bad Protestants do not realize they are being used and it is going to be very sad when they realize this, but it will be too late.

 

This is a book chapter, it is about the history of religious freedom in America

THE PILGRIM FATHERS

The English Reformers, while renouncing the doctrines of Romanism, had retained many of its forms. Thus though the authority and the creed of Rome were rejected, not a few of her customs and ceremonies were incorporated into the worship of the Church of England. It was claimed that these things were not matters of conscience; that though they were not commanded in Scripture, and hence were nonessential, yet not being forbidden, they were not intrinsically evil. Their observance tended to narrow the gulf which separated the reformed churches from Rome, and it was urged that they would promote the acceptance of the Protestant faith by Romanists.

To the conservative and compromising, these arguments seemed conclusive. But there was another class that did not so judge. The fact that these customs "tended to bridge over the chasm between Rome and the Reformation" (Martyn, volume 5, page 22), was in their view a conclusive argument against retaining them. They looked upon them as badges of the slavery from which they had been delivered and to which they had no disposition to return. They reasoned that God has in His word established the regulations governing His worship, and that men are not at liberty to add to these or to detract from them. The very beginning of the great apostasy was in seeking to supplement the authority of God by

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that of the church. Rome began by enjoining what God had not forbidden, and she ended by forbidding what He had explicitly enjoined.

Many earnestly desired to return to the purity and simplicity which characterized the primitive church. They regarded many of the established customs of the English Church as monuments of idolatry, and they could not in conscience unite in her worship. But the church, being supported by the civil authority, would permit no dissent from her forms. Attendance upon her service was required by law, and unauthorized assemblies for religious worship were prohibited, under penalty of imprisonment, exile, and death.

At the opening of the seventeenth century the monarch who had just ascended the throne of England declared his determination to make the Puritans "conform, or . . . harry them out of the land, or else worse."--George Bancroft, History of the United States of America, pt. 1, ch. 12, par. 6. Hunted, persecuted, and imprisoned, they could discern in the future no promise of better days, and many yielded to the conviction that for such as would serve God according to the dictates of their conscience, "England was ceasing forever to be a habitable place."--J. G. Palfrey, History of New England, ch. 3, par. 43. Some at last determined to seek refuge in Holland. Difficulties, losses, and imprisonment were encountered. Their purposes were thwarted, and they were betrayed into the hands of their enemies. But steadfast perseverance finally conquered, and they found shelter on the friendly shores of the Dutch Republic.

In their flight they had left their houses, their goods, and their means of livelihood. They were strangers in a strange land, among a people of different language and customs. They were forced to resort to new and untried occupations to earn their bread. Middle-aged men, who had spent their lives in tilling the soil, had now to learn mechanical trades. But they cheerfully accepted the situation and lost no time in idleness or repining. Though often pinched with poverty,

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they thanked God for the blessings which were still granted them and found their joy in unmolested spiritual communion. "They knew they were pilgrims, and looked not much on those things, but lifted up their eyes to heaven, their dearest country, and quieted their spirits."--Bancroft, pt. 1, ch. 12, par. 15.

In the midst of exile and hardship their love and faith waxed strong. They trusted the Lord's promises, and He did not fail them in time of need. His angels were by their side, to encourage and support them. And when God's hand seemed pointing them across the sea, to a land where they might found for themselves a state, and leave to their children the precious heritage of religious liberty, they went forward, without shrinking, in the path of providence.

God had permitted trials to come upon His people to prepare them for the accomplishment of His gracious purpose toward them. The church had been brought low, that she might be exalted. God was about to display His power in her behalf, to give to the world another evidence that He will not forsake those who trust in Him. He had overruled events to cause the wrath of Satan and the plots of evil men to advance His glory and to bring His people to a place of security. Persecution and exile were opening the way to freedom.

When first constrained to separate from the English Church, the Puritans had joined themselves together by a solemn covenant, as the Lord's free people, "to walk together in all His ways made known or to be made known to them." --J. Brown, The Pilgrim Fathers, page 74. Here was the true spirit of reform, the vital principle of Protestantism. It was with this purpose that the Pilgrims departed from Holland to find a home in the New World. John Robinson, their pastor, who was providentially prevented from accompanying them, in his farewell address to the exiles said:

"Brethren, we are now erelong to part asunder, and the Lord knoweth whether I shall live ever to see your faces more. But whether the Lord hath appointed it or not, I

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charge you before God and His blessed angels to follow me no farther than I have followed Christ. If God should reveal anything to you by any other instrument of His, be as ready to receive it as ever you were to receive any truth of my ministry; for I am very confident the Lord hath more truth and light yet to break forth out of His holy word."--Martyn, vol. 5, p. 70.

"For my part, I cannot sufficiently bewail the condition of the reformed churches, who are come to a period in religion, and will go at present no farther than the instruments of their reformation. The Lutherans cannot be drawn to go beyond what Luther saw; . . . and the Calvinists, you see, stick fast where they were left by that great man of God, who yet saw not all things. This is a misery much to be lamented; for though they were burning and shining lights in their time, yet they penetrated not into the whole counsel of God, but were they now living, would be as willing to embrace further light as that which they first received."--D. Neal, History of the Puritans, vol. 1, p. 269.

"Remember your church covenant, in which you have agreed to walk in all the ways of the Lord, made or to be made known unto you. Remember your promise and covenant with God and with one another, to receive whatever light and truth shall be made known to you from His written word; but withal, take heed, I beseech you, what you receive for truth, and compare it and weigh it with other scriptures of truth before you accept it; for it is not possible the Christian world should come so lately out of such thick antichristian darkness, and that full perfection of knowledge should break forth at once."--Martyn, vol. 5, pp. 70, 71.

It was the desire for liberty of conscience that inspired the Pilgrims to brave the perils of the long journey across the sea, to endure the hardships and dangers of the wilderness, and with God's blessing to lay, on the shores of America, the foundation of a mighty nation. Yet honest and God-fearing

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as they were, the Pilgrims did not yet comprehend the great principle of religious liberty. The freedom which they sacrificed so much to secure for themselves, they were not equally ready to grant to others. "Very few, even of the foremost thinkers and moralists of the seventeenth century, had any just conception of that grand principle, the outgrowth of the New Testament, which acknowledges God as the sole judge of human faith."--Ibid., vol. 5, p. 297. The doctrine that God has committed to the church the right to control the conscience, and to define and punish heresy, is one of the most deeply rooted of papal errors. While the Reformers rejected the creed of Rome, they were not entirely free from her spirit of intolerance. The dense darkness in which, through the long ages of her rule, popery had enveloped all Christendom, had not even yet been wholly dissipated. Said one of the leading ministers in the colony of Massachusetts Bay: "It was toleration that made the world antichristian; and the church never took harm by the punishment of heretics."--Ibid., vol. 5, p. 335. The regulation was adopted by the colonists that only church members should have a voice in the civil government. A kind of state church was formed, all the people being required to contribute to the support of the clergy, and the magistrates being authorized to suppress heresy. Thus the secular power was in the hands of the church. It was not long before these measures led to the inevitable result --persecution.

Eleven years after the planting of the first colony, Roger Williams came to the New World. Like the early Pilgrims he came to enjoy religious freedom; but, unlike them, he saw --what so few in his time had yet seen--that this freedom was the inalienable right of all, whatever might be their creed. He was an earnest seeker for truth, with Robinson holding it impossible that all the light from God's word had yet been received. Williams "was the first person in modern Christendom to establish civil government on the doctrine of the liberty of conscience, the equality of opinions before

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the law."--Bancroft, pt. 1, ch. 15, par. 16. He declared it to be the duty of the magistrate to restrain crime, but never to control the conscience. "The public or the magistrates may decide," he said, "what is due from man to man; but when they attempt to prescribe a man's duties to God, they are out of place, and there can be no safety; for it is clear that if the magistrates has the power, he may decree one set of opinions or beliefs today and another tomorrow; as has been done in England by different kings and queens, and by different popes and councils in the Roman Church; so that belief would become a heap of confusion."--Martyn, vol. 5, p. 340.

Attendance at the services of the established church was required under a penalty of fine or imprisonment. "Williams reprobated the law; the worst statute in the English code was that which did but enforce attendance upon the parish church. To compel men to unite with those of a different creed, he regarded as an open violation of their natural rights; to drag to public worship the irreligious and the unwilling, seemed only like requiring hypocrisy. . . . 'No one should be bound to worship, or,' he added, 'to maintain a worship, against his own consent.' 'What!' exclaimed his antagonists, amazed at his tenets, 'is not the laborer worthy of his hire?' 'Yes,' replied he, 'from them that hire him.'"-- Bancroft, pt. 1, ch. 15, par. 2.

Roger Williams was respected and beloved as a faithful minister, a man of rare gifts, of unbending integrity and true benevolence; yet his steadfast denial of the right of civil magistrates to authority over the church, and his demand for religious liberty, could not be tolerated. The application of this new doctrine, it was urged, would "subvert the fundamental state and government of the country."--Ibid., pt. 1, ch. 15, par. 10. He was sentenced to banishment from the colonies, and, finally, to avoid arrest, he was forced to flee, amid the cold and storms of winter, into the unbroken forest.

"For fourteen weeks," he says, "I was sorely tossed in a bitter season, not knowing what bread or bed did mean."

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But "the ravens fed me in the wilderness," and a hollow tree often served him for a shelter.--Martyn, vol. 5, pp. 349, 350. Thus he continued his painful flight through the snow and the trackless forest, until he found refuge with an Indian tribe whose confidence and affection he had won while endeavoring to teach them the truths of the gospel.

Making his way at last, after months of change and wandering, to the shores of Narragansett Bay, he there laid the foundation of the first state of modern times that in the fullest sense recognized the right of religious freedom. The fundamental principle of Roger Williams's colony was "that every man should have liberty to worship God according to the light of his own conscience."--Ibid., vol. 5, p. 354. His little state, Rhode Island, became the asylum of the oppressed, and it increased and prospered until its foundation principles--civil and religious liberty--became the cornerstones of the American Republic.

In that grand old document which our forefathers set forth as their bill of rights--the Declaration of Independence--they declared: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." And the Constitution guarantees, in the most explicit terms, the inviolability of conscience: "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office of public trust under the United States." "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

"The framers of the Constitution recognized the eternal principle that man's relation with his God is above human legislation, and his rights of conscience inalienable. Reasoning was not necessary to establish this truth; we are conscious of it in our own bosoms. It is this consciousness which, in defiance of human laws, has sustained so many martyrs in tortures and flames. They felt that their duty to God was superior to human enactments, and that man could exercise

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no authority over their consciences. It is an inborn principle which nothing can eradicate."--Congressional documents (U.S.A.), serial No. 200, document No. 271.

As the tidings spread through the countries of Europe, of a land where every man might enjoy the fruit of his own labor and obey the convictions of his own conscience, thousands flocked to the shores of the New World. Colonies rapidly multiplied. "Massachusetts, by special law, offered free welcome and aid, at the public cost, to Christians of any nationality who might fly beyond the Atlantic 'to escape from wars or famine, or the oppression of their persecutors.' Thus the fugitive and the downtrodden were, by statute, made the guests of the commonwealth."--Martyn, vol. 5, p. 417. In twenty years from the first landing at Plymouth, as many thousand Pilgrims were settled in New England.

To secure the object which they sought, "they were content to earn a bare subsistence by a life of frugality and toil. They asked nothing from the soil but the reasonable returns of their own labor. No golden vision threw a deceitful halo around their path. . . . They were content with the slow but steady progress of their social polity. They patiently endured the privations of the wilderness, watering the tree of liberty with their tears, and with the sweat of their brow, till it took deep root in the land."

The Bible was held as the foundation of faith, the source of wisdom, and the charter of liberty. Its principles were diligently taught in the home, in the school, and in the church, and its fruits were manifest in thrift, intelligence, purity, and temperance. One might be for years a dweller in the Puritan settlement, "and not see a drunkard, or hear an oath, or meet a beggar."--Bancroft, pt. 1, ch. 19, par. 25. It was demonstrated that the principles of the Bible are the surest safeguards of national greatness. The feeble and isolated colonies grew to a confederation of powerful states, and the world marked with wonder the peace and prosperity of "a church without a pope, and a state without a king."

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shores of America, actuated by motives widely different from those of the first Pilgrims. Though the primitive faith and purity exerted a widespread and molding power, yet its influence became less and less as the numbers increased of those who sought only worldly advantage.

The regulation adopted by the early colonists, of permitting only members of the church to vote or to hold office in the civil government, led to most pernicious results. This measure had been accepted as a means of preserving the purity of the state, but it resulted in the corruption of the church. A profession of religion being the condition of suffrage and officeholding, many, actuated solely by motives of worldly policy, united with the church without a change of heart. Thus the churches came to consist, to a considerable extent, of unconverted persons; and even in the ministry were those who not only held errors of doctrine, but who were ignorant of the renewing power of the Holy Spirit. Thus again was demonstrated the evil results, so often witnessed in the history of the church from the days of Constantine to the present, of attempting to build up the church by the aid of the state, of appealing to the secular power in support of the gospel of Him who declared: "My kingdom is not of this world." John 18:36. The union of the church with the state, be the degree never so slight, while it may appear to bring the world nearer to the church, does in reality but bring the church nearer to the world.

The great principle so nobly advocated by Robinson and Roger Williams, that truth is progressive, that Christians should stand ready to accept all the light which may shine from God's holy word, was lost sight of by their descendants. The Protestant churches of America,--and those of Europe as well,--so highly favored in receiving the blessings of the Reformation, failed to press forward in the path of reform. Though a few faithful men arose, from time to time, to proclaim new truth and expose long-cherished error, the majority, like the Jews in Christ's day or the papists in the time of Luther, were content to believe as their fathers had

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believed and to live as they had lived. Therefore religion again degenerated into formalism; and errors and superstitions which would have been cast aside had the church continued to walk in the light of God's word, were retained and cherished. Thus the spirit inspired by the Reformation gradually died out, until there was almost as great need of reform in the Protestant churches as in the Roman Church in the time of Luther. There was the same worldliness and spiritual stupor, a similar reverence for the opinions of men, and substitution of human theories for the teachings of God's word.

The wide circulation of the Bible in the early part of the nineteenth century, and the great light thus shed upon the world, was not followed by a corresponding advance in knowledge of revealed truth, or in experimental religion. Satan could not, as in former ages, keep God's word from the people; it had been placed within the reach of all; but in order still to accomplish his object, he led many to value it but lightly. Men neglected to search the Scriptures, and thus they continued to accept false interpretations, and to cherish doctrines which had no foundation in the Bible.

Seeing the failure of his efforts to crush out the truth by persecution, Satan had again resorted to the plan of compromise which led to the great apostasy and the formation of the Church of Rome. He had induced Christians to ally themselves, not now with pagans, but with those who, by their devotion to the things of this world, had proved themselves to be as truly idolaters as were the worshipers of graven images. And the results of this union were no less pernicious now than in former ages; pride and extravagance were fostered under the guise of religion, and the churches became corrupted. Satan continued to pervert the doctrines of the Bible, and traditions that were to ruin millions were taking deep root. The church was upholding and defending these traditions, instead of contending for "the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." Thus were degraded the principles for which the Reformers had done and suffered so much.

-Great Controversy

 

Scott J, you make very good points about the media...liberals favor it, conservatives don't won't to talk about it (afraid of looking extremist).

At this point, I don't know that there is much that can be done. We (as a society) have blurred the lines between church and state responsibilities, that I don't know that we will ever get back the things that should be the church, and leave those things that should be the state.

 

By "self government" do you mean democracy or what exactly? The Roman Republic lasted nearly 500 years - does that count as a self government lasting hundreds of years?

 

The sin of unbelief is like a cancer. It starts out as small and seemingly harmless blemish, then grows to a soul-killing mass of destruction. As a United Methodist, I have seen this happen in my own denomination. (Most of our bishops probably aren't saved). Of course not all Republicans are saved, just as all Democrats are not lost. There is certainly no Biblically correct political party. But when we begin to discredit the hand of God in the founding of our nation, and credit our success as a democracy to the result of human will, we will likely begin to discredit His power in other areas as well. In the Methodist church it begun with questioning the literal truth of Genesis. Now the very Ressurection of our Lord Himself is being dimissed as "metephor."

"Get saved! Then sweat the small stuff!"

 

Agreed, the tragic American Holocaust, 32 years on, has killed more people than Hitler could ahve dreamt of. Forty-five million plus dead Americans and still going strong. </font>[/QUOTE]right on.

 

Utter rubbish. This nation was founded on nearly pure Christian principals. Even the dissenters, like Franklin, recognized the need for faith in God. That is why we have far exceeded any human endeavor in history. The world today is full of enlightened revisionists, bent upon denying God's hand in our founding.

 

I would like to see our nation return so closely to its constitutional ideals with regard to the rights of men and the limitations of government... that federal power and money wouldn't be worth the fight to get it.

Libs love that Jefferson said there should be a wall between church and state... they don't like so well that said that government control of education would lead to indoctrination and subordination.

 

Really? This nation was actually founded on a nearly pure anti-God principle of leaving the determination of the country up to the "will of the people" or the will of man as opposed to the will of God. In America, it is set up so that man determines what is right and wrong, not God. Since the time of Christ has there been a nation that relied on the vote of man to settle law? No. The Romans believed that man as god determined law and thereafter all kings that arose in Europe were given the authority to rule, as with God's authority, by the Catholic Church until the Enlightenment when men began to seek control themselves. Even before Christ nearly all empires or nations were based on "godship" either by a man or a deity. Before Christ all have been false except for Israel. After Christ all have been under the authority of God, although by a mislead Catholic Church and then protestant England's royal anointing of God but under God nevertheless. Not until now has a government been set up in principle allowing man to determine the rule of law as opposed to God. As a result man has decided to create the largest secular culture to ever appear on the face of the earth and today is responsible for more proliferation of pornography and promiscuity than Sodom and Gomorrah could have ever hoped for. This nation is not based primarily on Christian principles, it is based on what man has determined to be his fundamental rights and that is written in his constitution that he,man, should decide right and wrong. Man as God.

As for freedom of religion, well, at least we got that much but man became carried away with "his" freedom. Even Jefferson determined that the separation of church and state primarily meant barring control of the state upon the church, not keeping the church from influencing the state but we have reaped the fruits of giving man the authority to interpret it. Were it not for the aspect of freedom of religion that allows churches to send missionaries around the world to evangelize nations this nation would probably be a sinking ship because I doubt God is very impressed with this nations corrupt, in service to money politic or it's babylon-like culture. But by the grace of God do we go forward. A reality check.

 

That's the problem with insisting that America is a Christian nation. That's not true and never was true. We're a nation primarily made up of professing Christians many of which never darken the door of a church or read the Bible.

To claim that we're a Christian nation infers that every American is a Christian. I don't think anyone would argue that that's the case.

I once visited two newcomers to our church. They were from India. The man, who had converted from Hindu to Christianity, said that his beliefs weren't challenged at all in America but in India and in thieland he was in danger of losing his life for his Christian faith.

This says a lot about people in America who want to make it even easier to practice Christianity here by having the government support their faith.Who do you think is more likely to have a genuine faith, the man who risks his life for it or the school boy who attends a school where Christian prayer is sanctioned? Christ never promised us that we would have an easy time of it if we followed Him. An easy faith is one that should be questioned.

 

Really? This nation was actually founded on a nearly pure anti-God principle of leaving the determination of the country up to the "will of the people" or the will of man as opposed to the will of God. In America, it is set up so that man determines what is right and wrong, not God. Since the time of Christ has there been a nation that relied on the vote of man to settle law? No. The Romans believed that man as god determined law and thereafter all kings that arose in Europe were given the authority to rule, as with God's authority, by the Catholic Church until the Enlightenment when men began to seek control themselves. Even before Christ nearly all empires or nations were based on "godship" either by a man or a deity. Before Christ all have been false except for Israel. After Christ all have been under the authority of God, although by a mislead Catholic Church and then protestant England's royal anointing of God but under God nevertheless. Not until now has a government been set up in principle allowing man to determine the rule of law as opposed to God. As a result man has decided to create the largest secular culture to ever appear on the face of the earth and today is responsible for more proliferation of pornography and promiscuity than Sodom and Gomorrah could have ever hoped for. This nation is not based primarily on Christian principles, it is based on what man has determined to be his fundamental rights and that is written in his constitution that he,man, should decide right and wrong. Man as God.

As for freedom of religion, well, at least we got that much but man became carried away with "his" freedom. Even Jefferson determined that the separation of church and state primarily meant barring control of the state upon the church, not keeping the church from influencing the state but we have reaped the fruits of giving man the authority to interpret it. Were it not for the aspect of freedom of religion that allows churches to send missionaries around the world to evangelize nations this nation would probably be a sinking ship because I doubt God is very impressed with this nations corrupt, in service to money politic or it's babylon-like culture. But by the grace of God do we go forward. A reality check. </font>[/QUOTE]This nation WAS founded on Godly principals Sonjeo, and we then turned it over to a democracy, where voting became a way by which money and power were delegated and appropriated.

It wasn't until we abandoned the strict constitutional principals and allowed the "will of the people" to surface that started us on the road to destruction.

We must not forget our Biblical heritage, and not allow the revisionists to wipe out it's glorious memory.

Even with 200 years of a steady democratization,(which is a very bad thing for freedom seeking people) this nation grew and created wealth at such a rate that God's hand had to be in it, IMHO.

 

It looks to me that Kyle Williams is mixing apples and oranges.

He is absolutely right that it is idolatry to have allegiance to a political party or leader that transcends truth or faith. It is truly a shame that Evangelicals have erected idols named "GOP" and "W".

But it seems that he goes on to imply that Biblical teachings do not govern the way we should approach government, or that they make no demand on us to attempt to govern biblically. On that I would disagree.