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Even Never Trump Evangelicals Might Be Swayed

church mouse guy

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The SBC did make a terrible mistake in setting up the ERLC, formerly known as the Christian Life Commission.

The agency was founded in 1988 when the Southern Baptist Convention began reducing its involvement in the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty due to conflicts over separation of church and state and whether Baptist organizations should play a role in partisan politics. It was led at its inception in 1988 by Richard Land. Land announced his intention to retire effective October 23, 2013, after the uproar that ensued from his controversial comments about the Trayvon Martin case that resulted in an official reprimand by the ERLC's executive committee.[3][4] Russell D. Moore filled the post afterwards.[5]

It has served as the convention's major link to the Republican Party all these years until Trump came along. With the election of 45-year-old pastor J.D. Greear from North Carolina to be president of the denomination, the fundamentalist takeover of the SBC has been reversed at least at the top.Greear called for “a new culture and a new posture in the Southern Baptist Convention.”

Not just the ERLC but the entire convention is hopefully undergoing a much-needed change away from integration with the Republican Party.

Yeah, it's leftist now.
 

FollowTheWay

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True, but there would still be the choice to either honor the principles of God, or of the world in Politics!
An easy choice for me. I'll honor my citizenship in the Kingdom of God. That means not locking in with any political party. I'm actually not a Democrat. I just oppose almost everything the Republicans do except trying to reduce abortion.
 
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Yeshua1

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An easy choice for me. I'll honor my citizenship in the Kingdom of God. That means not locking in with any political party. I'm actually not a Democrat. I just oppose almost everything the Republicans do except trying to reduce abortion.
You would then agree with abomination called gay marriages, that we need to ignore islamic terrorism, need to get rid of religious rights, just as the Dens do!
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Actually that is not so, seeing the Constitution Party fielded a good candidate. All it would take is for people to vote according to conscience and recognizing that the two party idea is actually a false dichotomy: there are other choices, which most fail to recognize.
Maybe, when they take center stage in the debates and in congress. But Ross Perot merely ensured Clinton, who feigned opposition to NAFTA, a win with less than a majority popular vote. Trump’s was the far smarter strategy, taking and winning the Republican field. Why couldn’t a constitutional candidate of character do that? He could, if he had the political savvy.

False dichotomy or not, the reality is a lot of money runs these elections, plus the president still has to work with congress. Fill congress with third party members first to have a real shot. Until then, sitting back or throwing away votes so that the far worse of the two main presidential candidates wins seems a terrible strategy.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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An easy choice for me. I'll honor my citizenship in the Kingdom of God. That means not locking in with any political party. I'm actually not a Democrat. I just oppose almost everything the Republicans do except trying to reduce abortion.
Same here. I’m not a Republican, and never have been. I just oppose almost everything the Democrats do, as they seem to have no moral bottom, just temporarily appropriate others’ much higher standards to use as a weapon, never as a guide.
 

FollowTheWay

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You would then agree with abomination called gay marriages, that we need to ignore islamic terrorism, need to get rid of religious rights, just as the Dens do!
OK so I didn't list everything. I don't agree with gay marriage which I consider to be of God but I do agree with treating them with respect and kindness. that's what jesus would have done. Did you support the murder of hundreds of thousands of Afghans and Iraqis in Bush's wars of aggression?
 

FollowTheWay

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You know when you say stuff like that no serious person will take you seriously.
The Iraq war was the breeding ground for ISIS and the ongoing war in Syria. We lost the Iraq as well as the Afghanistan war which cost us tens of thousands of lives and over a trillion dollars taken from the social security trust fund.
In addition, the Iraq war greatly benefited IRAN by destroying the country of their traditional adversary.

How can anyone see any good that came out of these wars?
 

Revmitchell

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The Iraq war was the breeding ground for ISIS and the ongoing war in Syria. We lost the Iraq as well as the Afghanistan war which cost us tens of thousands of lives and over a trillion dollars taken from the social security trust fund.
In addition, the Iraq war greatly benefited IRAN by destroying the country of their traditional adversary.

How can anyone see any good that came out of these wars?

We haven't lost anything but that wasn't my point. You called it Bush's aggression. That is propaganda and not reality.
 

Yeshua1

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OK so I didn't list everything. I don't agree with gay marriage which I consider to be of God but I do agree with treating them with respect and kindness. that's what jesus would have done. Did you support the murder of hundreds of thousands of Afghans and Iraqis in Bush's wars of aggression?
the one that the Congress supported and approved of?
 

Yeshua1

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OK so I didn't list everything. I don't agree with gay marriage which I consider to be of God but I do agree with treating them with respect and kindness. that's what jesus would have done. Did you support the murder of hundreds of thousands of Afghans and Iraqis in Bush's wars of aggression?
Show them respect, yes, but do not condone their alternate lifestyle as being aprroved by God!
 

just-want-peace

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The Dems also believed what the sources told them, was not Bush intionally misleading, and still beleive they were there, but got moved!

This is one trait of the current POTUS that was very weak in Bush. Saddam had several months to move any WMD that may have been there since Bush announced his intentions of going over there for the SPECIFIC purpose of destroying SH's WMDs.
Trump would never have told Saddam he (Trump) was coming - why or when!
 
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