Maybe 5 years ago.Well, that would mean the Spirit is wrong. It was He who said, "Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth He yet find fault."
I have no doubt that were we to boil it down, that would be your objection.
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If God commands all to sit down would that indicate God has a desire for all to avoid the consequence of standing up?
Because only Calvinists actually believe that this passage is about what they think it's about....
It isn't even particularly relevant to the debate.
It has actually nothing to do with it.
You guys just don't know that.
That's why we don't tend to respond to that one....
To do so, would be to accept that individual election to salvation were in view, but, as it isn't...
We can't accept that Gnostic interpretation of the text so, it simply means nothing to us.
That answers your question..
You won't like that, but, that's why they don't tend to engage you on it.
The "point" is...
They assume (with zilch biblical warrant) that that passage is speaking of individual "election" to salvation, and they assume then, that we also accept that and therefore think that we have to answer that "objection" on their terms.
We don't think that, because it's a question insanely loaded with the un-biblical Gnostic assumptions they pour into it.
But, they think it is, and because we don't accept their heretical Augustinian interpretation of it, they actually believe they have a powerful argument.
That's why you never bothered to ask yourself that question.
Because "that question" isn't what they think it is.
That's why it doesn't make sense to you.
One more chunk of wood for the fireplace. Sad I used to look up to you, only to now realize the enormous jerk you really are.
I am trying to find a friendly way to say it, and fearful that I'll fail, but...
Is anything in that post any less gruff than what you have in your sig line?
Well, that nastiness from you is par for the course for a Calvinist.
Sad to see the hate in your heart for your erstwhile brethren.
I still love you Willis....
And I wish you weren't trapped in the deceit you are now trapped in.
I have to say, I miss the kind "Convicted 1" who was I Corinthians 13 personified. I miss that Godly man which used to post here who was the embodiment of love and Christian peace. But, I am sorry we now are at odds. I love you whether you feel that way or not.
God bless you Willis, and I love you my friend.
Probably not...but both are true.
So what's the ISBN of this Non-Cal bible?
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Also John3:162Peter3:91John2:2Romans5:8So what's the ISBN of this Non-Cal bible?
Katarina Von Bora
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Ever the one to criticize. I seem to remember some things you had to say about Martin Luther. How'd that work out for you?
Put down your rocks folks, this is a Christian forum.
SheepWhisperer
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God is almighty: and He can do this thing any way He wants. So He says: "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy" by which He is just telling us, "I do this because I want to, not because I have to. Now..........who is it He "WILLS TO HAVE MERCY" on?
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Furthermore, as to speaking of Pharaoh, the Bible says that Pharaoh "hardened HIS heart" several times BEFORE God did. And as to "Esau" the "hating Esau" scripture has to do with NATIONS. If you don't believe that, show me one place where the MAN Esau, ever was a "servant" to the MAN Jacob. It's not in there bro. God loved Esau the man just like everybody else.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Furthermore, as to speaking of Pharaoh, the Bible says that Pharaoh "hardened HIS heart" several times BEFORE God did. And as to "Esau" the "hating Esau" scripture has to do with NATIONS. If you don't believe that, show me one place where the MAN Esau, ever was a "servant" to the MAN Jacob. It's not in there bro. God loved Esau the man just like everybody else.
Is he really? I don't understand how you can be shocked or amazed for anyone behaving badly since you swear it depends on how hard God pulls the puppet strings
You know maybe if God guaranteed I was elect and going to heaven, i'd be whining about it and insulting everyone i don't think made the list on my way there too.
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Jesus says hate your mother and father, Show of hands of Calvinist who have shot their parents from pure hatred?