Every Doctrine Could Cost You....!

[EdSutton]

We do not have Holy Spirit baptism anymore, like the apostles experienced on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:2-4) or like what happened to the house of Cornelius (Acts 11:15).
Acts 10:47 recognized two different baptisms - water baptism and Holy Spirit baptism; but then Ephesians 4:5 tells us we only have one baptism - so one must exist and the other must have ceased.
We must understand that the Holy Spirit baptism did one thing: "clothed" you "with power from on high" (Luke 24:49) which gave you the power of the Holy Spirit so that you may do miracles (prophecy; speaking in tongues; inspiration of the Holy spirit; ect)(sic) but we see that this "shall be done away" when the "perfect is come" (1 Corinthians 13:9-10). The 'perfect' refers to the perfect knowledge of the will of God (i.e. the Bible).

Might wanna' check with Paul. Here's some English renditions of the Greek language in I Cor. 12:13.

και γαρ εν ενι πνευματι ημεις παντες εις εν σωμα εβαπτισθημεν ειτε ιουδαιοι ειτε ελληνες ειτε δουλοι ειτε ελευθεροι και παντες [εις] εν πνευμα εποτισθημεν (TR1550, TR1894, WHNU - !881)

etenim in uno Spiritu omnes nos in unum corpus baptizati sumus sive Iudaei sive gentiles sive servi sive liberi et omnes unum Spiritum potati sumus (VULG - 425)

For in o spirit alle we ben baptisid `in to o bodi, ether Jewis, ether hethene, ether seruauntis, ether free; and alle we ben fillid with drink in o spirit. (WYC - 1384)

For in one sprete are we all baptysed to make one body whether we be Iewes or getyls whether we be bonde or fre: and have all dronke of one sprete. (TYN - 1526)

For we are all baptysed in one sprete to be one body, whether we be Iewes or Gentyles, whether we be bonde or fre, and haue all dronke of one sprete. (COV- 1535)

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we bee Iewes, or Grecians, whether we be bonde, or free, and haue bene all made to drinke into one Spirit. (GEN - 1587)

For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles, whether bond or free: and in one Spirit we have all been made to drink. (D-R - Chal)

For by one spirit are we all baptized into one bodie, whether wee bee Iewes or Gentiles, whether wee bee bond or free: and haue beene all made to drinke into one spirit. (KJV - 1611)

For we are all baptized by one Spirit into one body, whether we are Jews or Gentiles, whether slaves or freemen; and we have all drank of one Spirit.
(WES - 1755)

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (KJV- 1769)

for also in one Spirit we all to one body were baptized, whether Jews or Greeks, whether servants or freemen, and all into one Spirit were made to drink, (YLT - 1862)

For also in [the power of] one Spirit *we* have all been baptised into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bondmen or free, and have all been given to drink of one Spirit. (DARBY - 1890)

For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit. (ASV - 1901)

For (A)by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether (B)Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to (C)drink of one Spirit. (NASB - 1960, 1995)

For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into[a] one Spirit. (NKJV - 1982)

Some of us are Jews, and others are Gentiles. Some of us are slaves, and others are free. But God's Spirit baptized each of us and made us part of the body of Christ. Now we each drink from that same Spirit. (CEV - 1995)

Some of us are Jews, some are Gentiles,[a] some are slaves, and some are free. But we have all been baptized into one body by one Spirit, and we all share the same Spirit.[b] (NLT - 1996, 2004)

For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. (HCSB - 1999, 2003)

For we were all baptized by [a] one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. (TNIV - 2001, 2005)

Some of us are Jews, and some are Greeks. Some of us are slaves, and some are free. But we were all baptized into one body through one Spirit. And we were all made to share in the one Spirit. (NCV - 2005)

My friend, I have cited 18 English versions from the most literal to very free translations, over six and a quarter Centuries, plus the Greek and Latin. I could easily triple that number, just with English Bibles available on-line. Each and every one of them renders I Cor. 12:13 similarly, baptism by or in the Spirit, and for all (Christians).

I previously addressed the subject in this post, on the thread of "How Many Baptisms" here.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1275308&postcount=10

The Holy Spirit baptism is the same "done deal" for all believing Christians, today, just as it was at Pentecost, and with Cornelius. And I would suggest you are doing some serious eisegesis on Eph. 4:5, to make it read "water", for there is not one drop suggested, in the text. FTR, neither is the 'baptism' in Eph. 4:5 referring to the 'baptism in the Spirit', of I Cor. 12:13, but rather the baptsim into Christ, hence into the death of Christ, as found in Rom. 6:3. The "baptism in water" just as was doen by John and Peter, in Ac. 11, is a picture ("figure" - KJV) of the real thing that has already been done. (I Pet. 3:20-22)

Incidentally, since you are the one who raised the subjects initially, when are you going to answer my questions posed in posts # 22 & 53?

Ed

 

[Amy.G]

Ed Sutton, good post! :thumbs: