EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON: This has been one of those cliche Christians often throw around without truly understanding its meaning. Although this phrase cannot be found in the bible, there is some truth to it, if used in the right context. Romans 8:28 is often used to back up this man made statement. It wasn’t until a few years ago that God revealed to me what this quote and Romans 8:28 really means, as it needs to be lined up with God’s word and cannot contradict it.One also must look at God's CHARACTER as well. I have found that the way many Christians use this verse contradicts a foundational truth, which will be explained in a bit. Plus it must be read in CONTEXT of the whole chapter.
Instead of throwing cliches at hurting people we need to present the truth of what Romans 8:28 really means. And that would be to HELP others draw closer to God and LOVE Him. (bold-red by RD2)
The paradox is found in trying to combine God’s SOVEREIGNTY with Man’s FREE WILL. To say that “Every Thing Happens For A Reason” and that “God Works ALL Things Out For Good”…leaves out man’s free will, a fallen world and evil forces. Yes things happen due to natural cause and effect. Does that mean it is God ordained?....not in the sense that He controlled every situation, or caused you to do something or say something. He wouldn’t have you do or say something against His character. You made that choice now you have to live with it. He can however make a way out if you turn to Him. We also cannot keep OTHERS from doing what they are doing to us, or what might affect us. God could if He wanted to (but that would go against His nature) direct and control everything, including what one does or says. He could even do away with Satan (and He will someday) and keep Satan from attacking His children. But God has chosen not to do this because who wants someone who ONLY loves you because you made them....not real love then is it? God is a jealous God and wants OUR LOVE and devotion.
What God has revealed to me over the years in my head and heart is this one truth. God gave us the Holy Spirit in us to HELP us do the ONE thing an unbeliever isn’t able to, and that is allow God to do His work for good, thus FULFILL Romans 8:28. He also cannot fulfill this with a disobedient Christian who is going their own way. See here is the key to it all and if followed does fulfills Romans 8:28 and God’s number one desire for His children...
GOD’S SOVEREIGNTY...Is just as powerful a fact as man’s free will. Obviously like I said God and can DO anything He wants. But He chose to set creation up in a way that glorifies Him. We were put here to Glorify God. I’m going to explain how I see the two fit together and you see if it makes any sense?
God has a part and I have a part. These two parts must fit together to make a functioning whole. Now if man’s free will is pulling in one direction and God is trying to draw him towards Himself...are all things working for mans good?...obviously not. I have been saying what I am about to say for many years, my response is often a puzzled look on many a Christians face...THE ONLY THING I AM CALLED TO DO AND IS WHAT GOT ME IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD IN THE FIRST place IS TO YIELD/SUBMIT to His call to His will...God’s job or part is to do the WORK in me. 1 Cor 3 is a great example of this. Jesus is the FOUNDATION and it is the work that God has done IN you and not the work of your flesh that is going to count, it will be burned up. Our works will not be judged, it says, our FAITHFULNESS will be. As we yield to God work and He works through us.
So how does this all fit in with Romans 8:28...simple, most don’t take into consideration what “TO THOSE WHO LOVE GOD”, means. Romans 8:28 only applies to those who LOVE Him, who are submitted and yielded to His will. This is done through prayer and reading of His word and obedience of course. Kind of like a child who submits to his parents authority, now I can work with that child in guiding him to do what is BEST FOR HIM. As one TRUSTS and is yielded to God’s sovereignty, God does His work IN them (He is the potter I am the clay) and through them. He makes it so ones OUTLOOK and DESIRES are right in lines with His...how much better can you get? That is the GOOD that Paul is talking about in Romans 8:28...it doesn’t change your circumstances, but it does change your focus which is an ETERNAL FOCUS...no longer one that is on self or this worldly goods or even tragedies that happen to us. The other is true too, if you do NOT yield and trust God He CANNOT and WILL NOT do His part and work with you and help you...He may intervene as a way to help or nudge you and get your attention back to Him....but only true MIRACLES and true PEACE/GOOD can happen as one is solely focused on Him!...do I want just a part of God’s blessings or ALL?
Think of Moses and the Israelites, because of their disobedience they wondered in the desert for 40 years never reaching the PROMISE LAND...not exactly "GOOD" or God's will
You have an interesting theology. In one thread [about homosexuals] you stated, "...once a lesbian or gay gets saved they AUTOMATICALLY SHOULD NOW BE ATTRACTED TO THE OPPOSITE SEX....for many that isn't ever going to happen even if Jesus came back and laid hands on them Himself...it just isn't WHO THEY ARE....they are a homosexual..." and now you just casually toss out Romans 8:28 (DSV) "We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose." like it was never there, or that it means little when it comes to understanding why something happened as it happened in our life!
One question to you Matt27. Do you have a good, low deductible insurance policy in effect on you and all your possessions? I ask this, because I'd be careful about lightening striking your home on a clear-blue sky day, or the earth opening up and swallowing everything around you! :smilewinkgrin: :laugh: :wavey:
Now, to your statement, it isn't have bad. It shows thought and practical experience on your behalf, and I would compliment you for working out Scripture and its application to you and your personal view of what happens in your life and why it happens as it does.
I'd only caution you to not forget, that the NEAT thing about the Scripture is, that most of the time, it can have multiple meanings [which is the way I believe God meant it to be]. In other words, the entire text or a verse here and one there, can be many things to believers at different times throughout their process of Sanctification. I have found that the Scripture seems to grow with me. For instance, a verse may not be all that pwoerful to me at one time in my life, and at another time, it knocks me off my feet, to my knees, and leaves me in awe and filled with remorse, praise, or a blessing I never expereinced from it years earlier.
I have discovered that there are a ton of verses in His Word that can mean something for one thing and something else for another day and time. This is the miracle of the "Living Word!" Living word means it is living, changing, growing [with us]!