Experts Agree: Metrodome produces heavy home field advantage

Sorry, I'm not buying this reason at all. Anything inherent in the stadium itself was to the detriment or advantage of both teams. For example, the walls didn't move depending on who was at bat.

The biggest difference between the Metrodome and other stadiums was the crowd noise. While I'm sure it was/is deafening at times, crowd noise just doesn't impact baseball as much as it does other sports like football and basketball.

There's no doubt that it's a fluky thing that the Twins won both their World Series titles the way they did, but that's all it was, a fluke. The sample size of postseason games you're using is just too small to make such a claim of heavy home field advantage.

Besides all that, your OP cited Joe Morgan as an expert. :smilewinkgrin:

 

I cannot believe such a silly notion has gone on for 5 pages. But I gotta hand it to Andy, when he has his mind made up about something far be it from any facts or information to sway him

 

The Metrodome is Andy's White Whale, I think. :laugh:

 

Huh?

I thought this was your main argument.

You can't change your argument in the middle of a thread that you started! Good grief. :laugh:

Aha! The truth comes out. I thought you might have been a Cardinals fan, but I should have known better since you didn't mention 1985. I agree that the Tigers were the better team during the regular season, winning something like 97 or 98 games. As I recall, the Twinkies won 2 of 3 games at Tiger Stadium.

Actually looking forward to them, Andy! :wavey:

You must hate it that the Tigers lost the World Series last year to a team that could only muster 83 wins.

:BangHead:

The '06 Cardinals had to be the absolute worst team to win the World Series. Ever.

Until your next diatribe against the Metrodome, I'll be patiently waiting for Bible-Believing Bill to join the thread and take exception to my comment about the Cardinals. :smilewinkgrin:

 

I am sure the Cardinals won last year over the Tigers because there was not enough foul room at Busch Stadium, or the hot dog vendors were not polite enough or something along those lines

I am glad to see the real truth came out as well! Andy, get over it man, 1987 was FOREVER ago.

 

There you go again, actually bringing facts into the discussion ccr. I thought we had this discussion already :laugh:

 

I know! I keep letting facts get in the way of discussions.

Note to self: Keep pesky facts out of discussions.

 

Personally, I'm convinced there had to be some sort of conspiracy inoloving the Metrodome that kept several teams with better records out of the playoffs while allowing the Cardinals at 83-78 to even participate, let alone winn the League and World Series. In fact, Busch Stadium was do you think a detriment to the Cards, last year, by only allowing them to only go 49-31 at home, the second largets differential in the NL, second only to the NY Mets who were 50-31 at home. ??

If Atlanta had 1/2 the homefield advantage of the Cards, in 2006, they would have won their division for the 15th time consecutively, instead of having the string stopped at 14, and kept the Cards from appearing at all in the playoffs, let alone the W/S.

FTR, in 2007 so far, the Twins are .500 on the road, and are three games below .500 at home, so I don't guess it always works out that way, hunh??

And the largest home field advantage over the years, by far, has been Yankee Stadium for the Bronx Bombers, but I guess that "fact" sneaked by, as well. +25 in 2005, +19 in 2006, and +1 so far this year when the future of Joe Torre is already being questioned, because the team has not lived up to some expectations.

Check all the records, not just some that are "cherry picked" when your so beloved Tigers, or White sox, or whomever haven't won in the last few years! Just 'cause you hate the "sack"!

And FTR, the only time, to my knowledge the fences moved, in a game, was with a minor league team under the tutilage of the either the incomparable Bill Veeck, or the also incomparable Frankie Lane (don't remember exactly which one, without looking it up), when they came in for his team when batting and moved out for the visitors. That ended after one day, when the league passed a rule against that in 'emergency' meeting.

Ed

 

Ed Sutton: where are you getting the numbers for the home field advantage?

As for the Braves last year, they were sub .500 and what, 18 games behind the Mets? They would've needed four home field advantages per game for them to win the series.

 

Well, here's the thing about Andy's argument. It's not whether the Metrodome provides a bigger advantage to the Twins or not, but if the advantage it provides the Twins is bigger than the advantage another team gains because of their stadium. For example, Fenway Park gives an advantage to the Red Sox. But, is Fenway more of an advantage to Boston than the Metrodome is to Minnesota?

It's a more difficult argument to back up.

 

And I'm no fan of criticizing a team for their fan support giving them a home field advantage. That's what is supposed to happen. :thumbs:

 

Sorry, I forgot they were not still in the same division as the Reds, Cardinals, and Astros, where they once were. Shows how much I follow baseball after the strikes. I just hate biased numbers, and 'cherry-picking' and skewing facts for any reason, even when I may agree with a premise. I watched the All-star game, maybe part of two regular games all season, a few playoff games, and the World Series, about all I watch any more. I used to have my radio set to pick up the Braves and/or with another button, the Reds every night. Great, then, to fall asleep by! No more!

Ed

 

Mystique? You attribute the Yankees home-field advantage to mystique?

I think the fact that the Yankees have a roster full of great players has 1,000,000 times more to do with their home field advantage than it does any sort of "mystique".