Explain to me this....

[Yeshua1]

The other half of my wife's family are all Mormons. While they are nice folk, they all believe in the doctrines and covenants of Mormon. You can talk with them, they just never change. They know in their hearts they are right. This is about being under a strong delusion. They have the book of Mormon , the bible, the family, their church and their prophets to explain and guide them. They do consider themselves to be the restored true church. My wife's father was Mormon, somehow he met an Episcopal priest who was able to explain to him the errors, and he left the Mormons, created quite the rift him and the rest, however they were always nice to me and my wife. My wife's grandmother fully expected to bear spirit children in the next life and be worshiped as gods, her and her husband. And also that Jehovah God had evolved and so would they. It is honestly quite shocking what they believe and that they all of them do believe these things. None I met were ignorant, they were all well taught their delusions.

The Mormon church does seem to be closest to what satan offered adam and eve, to become "as gods"

 

[Centrist]

But there are other details that decide for me IF I am good enough. Having been told that I'm not welcome at a few Baptist churches because I supposedly questioned the Holy Bible's integrity. Here, I disagree with the need to know the age of the Earth. I know the bible say nothing about it, but to be refused membership because I don't believe the Earth is a mere 6,000 year old? For me, because of the line for work I was in, 4.5 billion years works just fine. But...does it really matter? I don't think it does. But to be accused of questioning the bible's integrity? To me that takes the cake. No, I'm not questioning the Bible or it's integrity, but instead that of the pastor. I was fortunate at one time to be an interim pastor
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ETA: I'm not in good health right now, lots of physical pain, fatigue, stuff like that, so this is as organized as I can get right now. Thx.

As I was saying but forgot to detail, I was at one time an interim pastor for a non-denominational church-group, we considered it "our own little church" but had no articles of corporation, no formal paper, nothing like that at all. And we didn't care. There are far more pressing issues in life than the age of the Earth. And I assure you, to some churches that is very important. If I'm not willing to agree with their pastor on something that inconsequential, what kind of "trouble" could I possibly be later on? I call that he "Jim Jones attitude". In such churches it's no longer a church of God, but instead a church of the pastor. Anyways, to fill in the blank I mistakenly left....

 

[Centrist]

I see several have already labeled the LDS as a cult. Is there some level of authority you were given to justify that call? I mean, you can disagree with them, you can dislike them, you can even despise them. But to judge them? Is that the right step to take?

Anyhow, going back to the main subject... no I cannot recall encountering any SBC church that had a gay pastor. That actually goes to the Methodists and the Presbyterians. Had a friend that was at that time a Presbyterian pastor (right label?), until I found his church supports homosexuality, then I walked away from it. Same with every church I attended & found out they support *either* female pastors or homosexuality.

 

[church mouse guy]

I see several have already labeled the LDS as a cult. Is there some level of authority you were given to justify that call? I mean, you can disagree with them, you can dislike them, you can even despise them. But to judge them? Is that the right step to take?

They do not believe anything that Christians believe but they call themselves Christian. They have always been called a cult since they began about 1830.

 

[Centrist]

Hmmm. Having been Mormon I have some difficulty in seeing that. Of course I never looked for the differences between the two either. I'm more than happy to discuss this, just not in this thread. Sound ok with you?

 

[church mouse guy]

Hmmm. Having been Mormon I have some difficulty in seeing that. Of course I never looked for the differences between the two either. I'm more than happy to discuss this, just not in this thread. Sound ok with you?

Sure. Mormons attacked Christianity from the beginning so they themselves said all the denominations were wrong.

 

[Particular]

Hmmm. Having been Mormon I have some difficulty in seeing that. Of course I never looked for the differences between the two either. I'm more than happy to discuss this, just not in this thread. Sound ok with you?

Really? You have never researched the difference? Then you have some research to do. You will find some major differences.

 

[Centrist]

I really don't have any standards for a church or preacher, except adherence to the Holy Bible. I'm not going to debate IF the LDS is or is not a cult. That's not what this thread is about. What people commonly mistake as my standards are 1) No LGBTQ leaders. 2) No women pastors (though they are equal in skill, knowledge & faith). 3) Do not require belief in a 6,000 year old Earth. I don't go around demanding this, I'll go to a church, listen to the preacher, and if I like how he preaches the Word, then I'll come back again. If I don't, I won't. I generally give at least four visits before deciding.

 

[Centrist]

Really? You have never researched the difference? Then you have some research to do. You will find some major differences.

I already stated my view on this. We have one God, one Jesus Christ, one Holy Spirit, and only one Holy Bible.

 

[church mouse guy]

I already stated my view on this. We have one God, one Jesus Christ, one Holy Spirit, and only one Holy Bible.

But you believe that there are many gods on other planets....

 

[Particular]

I already stated my view on this. We have one God, one Jesus Christ, one Holy Spirit, and only one Holy Bible.

Your statement is misleading.
Is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit one being and three distinct person's in one?

Is the Book of Mormon and Pearl of Great Price God's inspired and inerrant word to mankind?

Was Joseph Smith correct when he taught his flock to be polygamous?

Are there three heavens with the highest heaven being a place where good Mormons go to have sex and create more spirit babies?

I could go on. Suffice it to say that Mormonism has no relationship with Christianity. In fact, I believe the same demon that lead Muhammed to teach falsely is the same demon who lead Joseph Smith to teach falsely. The similarities are uncanny.

 

[Centrist]

I believe you guys are only looking for some way to attack a FORMER Mormon. Apparently you missed that in the past, and apparently you also missed that I am looking NOT for the Mormon Church, either. And that is why in two of the posts I put this link A Warning to Pastors Who Mislead God's People in hopes that people reading this would not act like heathens going in for the kill.

But I thank you, though. Because you have not only shown the true color of the Southern Baptist Convention (because that IS who you represent online in a forum), but you also show that you have no concern for the salvation of another of God's Children.

Have a good day.

 

[Centrist]

Your statement is misleading.
Is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit one being and three distinct person's in one?

You are talking about the Triune God. What does it matter to you what I believe in? My statement is not misleading at all.

Is the Book of Mormon and Pearl of Great Price God's inspired and inerrant word to mankind?

Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. You're not a Mormon and I am no longer, so what does that matter to you? If you knew much about the history of the books inside the Holy Bible, you won't find anywhere any scripture saying new books could not be written.

Was Joseph Smith correct when he taught his flock to be polygamous?

Maybe if you read the history on that you might become more enlightened. You're not a Mormon and I am no longer, so what does that matter to you?

Are there three heavens with the highest heaven being a place where good Mormons go to have sex and create more spirit babies?

Maybe there is and maybe there isn't. You're not a Mormon and I am no longer, so what does that matter to you? If you want to learn more about the Mormons try going to a Mormon church. You will be amazed at how friendly people there are. And, unlike you, non-judgmental, too. Did your pastor ever instruct you to read Matthew 7? Amazing words there, indeed!

I could go on. Suffice it to say that Mormonism has no relationship with Christianity. In fact, I believe the same demon that lead Muhammed to teach falsely is the same demon who lead Joseph Smith to teach falsely. The similarities are uncanny.

Suffice it to say that you are a bully looking for a chance to bully a Mormon. Something you won't do in person, but salivate over online.

Listen up bub- I did not start this thread to start a debate about your church versus the Mormon church. I came here because I am trying to find a church to be part of. You missed that didn't you? You're not the first. Now if we can get back to the original post and my query there, I would certainly appreciate it.

 

[Centrist]

But you believe that there are many gods on other planets....

Thank you so very much for telling me what I believe in.

 

[Rob_BW]

You are talking about the Triune God. What does it matter to you what I believe in? My statement is not misleading at all.


Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. You're not a Mormon and I am no longer, so what does that matter to you? If you knew much about the history of the books inside the Holy Bible, you won't find anywhere any scripture saying new books could not be written.


Maybe if you read the history on that you might become more enlightened. You're not a Mormon and I am no longer, so what does that matter to you?


Maybe there is and maybe there isn't. You're not a Mormon and I am no longer, so what does that matter to you? If you want to learn more about the Mormons try going to a Mormon church. You will be amazed at how friendly people there are. And, unlike you, non-judgmental, too. Did your pastor ever instruct you to read Matthew 7? Amazing words there, indeed!


Suffice it to say that you are a bully looking for a chance to bully a Mormon. Something you won't do in person, but salivate over online.

Listen up bub- I did not start this thread to start a debate about your church versus the Mormon church. I came here because I am trying to find a church to be part of. You missed that didn't you? You're not the first. Now if we can get back to the original post and my query there, I would certainly appreciate it.

And we've been saying, if you're looking for long term, fruitful association with a church, you'll need to cement your positions on a number of issues.

No male pastors or acceptance of homosexuality as not a sin is a start. But you're going to need to go further.

 

[church mouse guy]

Thank you so very much for telling me what I believe in.

Oh, by the word "you" I merely meant Mormonism. Don't take offense at casual grammar please.

 

[Particular]

I believe you guys are only looking for some way to attack a FORMER Mormon. Apparently you missed that in the past, and apparently you also missed that I am looking NOT for the Mormon Church, either. And that is why in two of the posts I put this link A Warning to Pastors Who Mislead God's People in hopes that people reading this would not act like heathens going in for the kill.

But I thank you, though. Because you have not only shown the true color of the Southern Baptist Convention (because that IS who you represent online in a forum), but you also show that you have no concern for the salvation of another of God's Children.

Have a good day.

Nope. I don't attack you. I am pointing out how wrong Joseph Smith was. You said you have not researched and compared Christianity with Joseph Smith's teachings. Joseph Smith was radically different from Christianity in his teaching. His followers today are still on the path that Joseph Smith started.

 

[Particular]

You are talking about the Triune God. What does it matter to you what I believe in? My statement is not misleading at all.


Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. You're not a Mormon and I am no longer, so what does that matter to you? If you knew much about the history of the books inside the Holy Bible, you won't find anywhere any scripture saying new books could not be written.


Maybe if you read the history on that you might become more enlightened. You're not a Mormon and I am no longer, so what does that matter to you?


Maybe there is and maybe there isn't. You're not a Mormon and I am no longer, so what does that matter to you? If you want to learn more about the Mormons try going to a Mormon church. You will be amazed at how friendly people there are. And, unlike you, non-judgmental, too. Did your pastor ever instruct you to read Matthew 7? Amazing words there, indeed!


Suffice it to say that you are a bully looking for a chance to bully a Mormon. Something you won't do in person, but salivate over online.

Listen up bub- I did not start this thread to start a debate about your church versus the Mormon church. I came here because I am trying to find a church to be part of. You missed that didn't you? You're not the first. Now if we can get back to the original post and my query there, I would certainly appreciate it.

I have confronted Mormon "missionaries" who tried to persuade others. I directed them to God the Son who is not a created being, but is the I AM.
I have pointed out specific truths about Mormonism. No maybes about what I said.
I am not saying anything about you. But, certainly you take offense at what I say about the Mormon cult. Christians I know, who have left the Mormon cult, do not take offense at what I have said. They concur. They study the Bible and recognize how demonic Joseph Smith's teachings are.
It seems you don't know what is taught by Mormons. It seems you simply like the "love bomb" they placed on people. Cults are notorious for their "love bombing." Study your Bible. Compare what God teaches with what Joseph Smith taught. They are incompatible.

 

[Jerome]

But....how can I also have leanings towards the LDS when their teachings are so different than that of the SBC? Well, to me it's simple....no homosexuality....so many churches, some Baptist, some Methodist, you see them all over the place it seems, except you will not see that in the Mormon church.

Oops, just in the news:

Brigham Young University deletes 'Homosexual Behavior' section from its Honor Code

Struck from the code:

̶H̶o̶m̶o̶s̶e̶x̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶h̶a̶v̶i̶o̶r̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶a̶p̶p̶r̶o̶p̶r̶i̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶v̶i̶o̶l̶a̶t̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶H̶o̶n̶o̶r̶ ̶C̶o̶d̶e̶.̶ ̶H̶o̶m̶o̶s̶e̶x̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶h̶a̶v̶i̶o̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶c̶l̶u̶d̶e̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶s̶e̶x̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶r̶e̶l̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶b̶e̶t̶w̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶m̶e̶m̶b̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶x̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶m̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶p̶h̶y̶s̶i̶c̶a̶l̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶i̶m̶a̶c̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶e̶x̶p̶r̶e̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶o̶m̶o̶s̶e̶x̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶f̶e̶e̶l̶i̶n̶g̶s̶.̶

This was done "to be in alignment with the doctrine and policies of the Church."

 

[Yeshua1]

Your statement is misleading.
Is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit one being and three distinct person's in one?

Is the Book of Mormon and Pearl of Great Price God's inspired and inerrant word to mankind?

Was Joseph Smith correct when he taught his flock to be polygamous?

Are there three heavens with the highest heaven being a place where good Mormons go to have sex and create more spirit babies?

I could go on. Suffice it to say that Mormonism has no relationship with Christianity. In fact, I believe the same demon that lead Muhammed to teach falsely is the same demon who lead Joseph Smith to teach falsely. The similarities are uncanny.

Both had satan himself appearing as an Angel of light....