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Facial Jewelry

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Istherenotacause, May 7, 2003.

  1. LadyEagle

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    :rolleyes:

    Don't serpents have forked tongues? Could this idea have originated from that old serpent himself? Could be....
     
  2. Istherenotacause

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    There are those things that define ones elf in bondage to that he serves, namedbly the flesh, for we are never in bondage to serve the Lord.

    C'mon, people, let's determine what is adorning and what are indications of bondage. [​IMG]

    Tonguesplitting? It would be more extreme than tongue bobs, [​IMG] which by the way are responsible for infections in the tongue, and not as popular as they used to be because of that, some still have to learn by that most effective teacher: experience! :rolleyes:

    Nose rings? Well, I supose it would be another way of picking your nose! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Eyebrow rings? Well, I know some one who had one, and when he wiped sweat off his brow with his arm, his watch caught the ring and ripped a gash requiring 14 stitches in his eyebrow! :eek: OUCH!

    And we still are wandering around in the dark supposing these to be a matter of ones own choosing and not our business to advise them to the contrary! :rolleyes:
     
  3. Ben W

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    Toungesplitting ?

    Didnt Gene Simmonds lead singer of KISS do that in the 1970's :D
     
  4. Abiyah

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    Tacky clothing as a religious issue? Okay.
    Coulottes could fall under that as well as:
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    • Clothing intended for teenagers
      on 40-year-olds, male or female.</font>
    • Clothing worn too tight on males
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    • Cleavage, whether a plumber's,
      mechanic's, bicyclist's or any
      woman's, especially while at prayer.</font>
    • Skirts/dresses on those who do
      not know to keep their knees
      together and on those who are
      unaware what bending over can do.</font>
    • We could add a lot more!!</font>
    8oD

    Saw a young man the other day who probably
    ran out of places to pierce. Nice young man,
    though. I can see him in his seventies:
    Grandpa, what happened to your face?
    A war. I don't want to talk about it.
     
  5. Istherenotacause

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    Reckon "moderation" has anything to do with it?

    Or is it too legalistic to obey,"Let your moderation be known unto all men"?
     
  6. I Am Blessed 24

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    I don't know Ben, I've never seen KISS, but I'm sure it's possible. The first time I heard anything about it was when I read that article and the picture was sickening. :eek:
     
  7. I Am Blessed 24

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    [​IMG] Abiyah [​IMG] Too funny!
     
  8. Maverick

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    I have long wondered why we tolerated ear piercing but fuss at the others. If God did not provide a hole for hanging stuff no hole should be made as it is a mutlilation of the body. Either God made it like He liked it or not. Clamp on ear rings are no problem. Dangle a jewel on your forehead via a lace headband, no issue there. Even come up with a "pince-nez" nose bauble, but as one already stated most of this stuff is cultural rebellion or preludes into paganism and Christians need to stay away from it.

    Would I welcome someone into Church? Certainly, unsaved people do all kinds of strange things and the Church is there to lead them into freedom. Would I let my Youth Pastor do this? Nope. I mean he could, but he would be seeking a new place of ministry. I'm an old Hippie and I know all the excuses for allowing the kids to be themselves and we have to reach them where they are yada yada.

    Still, the Gospel is a call out of the World. It is an ultimatum as well as a gift of love. It is not a win-win negotiation allowing fraternization with the World. Come out and touch not the unclean thing. Read Heb 5:11-14 and Hosea 4:6 and you will see the state of the Church in America. Achan got into trouble because he had gold that belonged to God and clothing that belonged to the World (Babylon as being a symbol of the World). God told him not to have either one. Things haven't changed much. We want to be rich and have all the "fun" of the World and Heaven when we die. I am most thankful for grace and that works play no part in my salvation or I would surely be in Hell, but we are to mature into adult sons and daughters of God and put away carnal things. If we must err, then let us all dress like Mennonites and Amish rather than see how much of the World's stuff we can get by with before we lose our power with God and respect of men. Better to never have the "freedom" of thongs, holes and 'toos than to be saved and defeated here and all burned up at the Bema.
     
  9. TheOliveBranch

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    Well said, Mav. [​IMG]
     
  10. Istherenotacause

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    Hello Maverick, Good post and I agree totally. Are you then saying that facial jewelry has it's origin in Babylon? I believe much of it came from Egypt, except those betrothal adornings such as Rebekah wore that she received from Abraham's servant. Most of what I can find Biblically , is rooted from paganism, except those adornings as mentioned above. Have you got any references to substanciate your post? I'm not argueing, I'm just looking for more to back up my stand.

    Thanks again,

    Brother Ricky
     
  11. Maverick

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    All I was saying that in Scripture, Babylon is used as a type of the World or Kosmos. Where it all started I really do not know for sure.

    Why do we have a need to decorate our face/body? Is it for pride, disatisfaction with what God gave us, tradition, rebellion? I don't know. Some of all of the above most likely.

    With harlots, the better you look the more customers you will get so you do whatever you have to do for that. Hence eyepainting, immodest/sugestive dress, etc. Jewelry may have made the lad think he was really getting a "classy" lassie or the sparkle got to him. If she wore a piece of jewelry for every customer it showed that she was an accomplished woman and that might have had some appeal.

    A lot of pagan religions had their temple prostitutes and they would be adorned with stuff to make their god look prosperous and generous.

    Piercings are a part of a lot of pagan tribes to show manhood or such. We are not pagans in theology, but we seem to be in practice if the fad is on.

    I am not sure how folks explain "in the world but not of the world" anymore. We are not to be in the mold of this world, which speaks to the whole philosophical bent of it. Most of what we do is an expression of our worldview and belief system. Hence anything that is a fad in the world normally has no roots in a Christocentric worldview and should be abhorred not adored.

    If you must decorate then it should not require mutilation of the flesh nor be real flashy if we are to keep with Peter's teaching. Works for men as well as women though women tend to be the flashier of the sexes.

    It must be important or God would not have mentioned it so we need to resist the urge to merge with the crowd and follow the Book.
     
  12. Maverick

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    Oh yes, speaking of kosmos, that is the root for the cosmetics. The whole concept of that is order or orderliness. Hence if I trim my beard or comb my hair I am praticing cosmetics. If I keep in order what God gave me then I am orderly or in good cosmetic. Adding a bunch of stuff or plucking all my eyebrows out and painting them back on is not godly cosmetics. It is literally a world order because it was some nut that came up with all that stuff and sold it to vain/gullible/insecure/low self-image people. If people were barns I would say paint it if it needs it but God says we are a temple and slapping paint on temple marble or other material just makes it cheap and tacky and ruins both beauty and value as does all the mess Helene Curtis and Mary Kay sells.
     
  13. I Am Blessed 24

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    WOW! I did not realize that I was vain/gullible/insecure and had a low self-image because I wear lipstick! :mad:
     
  14. Istherenotacause

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    WOW! I did not realize that I was vain/gullible/insecure and had a low self-image because I wear lipstick! :mad: </font>[/QUOTE]Since when did lipstick become jewelry?

    Lipstick is solely for the purpose of "decorating" the lips to attract attention to the lips. In that sense it is adorning, not jewelry though.
     
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    I'd rather look just as nice as possible and wear makeup, so my husband (if I had one) wouldn't be tempted to look elsewhere. [​IMG]

    hsmom3
     
  16. I Am Blessed 24

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    Helene Curtis and Mary Kay were mentioned Bro. Ricky. They sell make-up, not jewelry...hence the comment about lipstick.
     
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