preacher4truth
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2 Peter 1:1; Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:
Clearly here, faith is referred to as something we have received. What do any of us have that we did not receive?
Romans 12:3 For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith.
Yet another passage proclaiming God as the One who has granted to believers their faith.
Php 1:29 For to you it has been granted for Christ's sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,
Yet another passage declaring faith, or belief in Christ as a gift that God Himself has given to believers, or more specifically, His elect.
Arminians. Semi-Pelagians. Pelagians. Those that deny they are such, yet are. Anti-Calvinists. These groups attack this tenet in Scriptures that declare God has even granted to us the very faith that we do have. They demand their rights in this, and declare they had their own faith.
I’ve provided Scriptures proving faith a gift. Many of you argue that it is not the case. And you have nothing in Gods Word to back it up.
Show me one verse or passage of Scriptures that prove you exercised a faith that you inherently had within yourself, and did so out of some free will also that you had in yourself, given to you by yourself. And then explain how you gave this gift to yourself before birth.
Now, it is established it is a gift from God. Sovereignly He grants it. The Scriptures back it up.
Now, let’s say you did inherently have this faith within yourself, where then did it come from? You? Think of how absurd that is, like you’ve created anything, as if you have anything that you have not received from God. If you are arguing against this what exactly do you possess that you did not receive from God? We brought how much into this world, 1 Timothy 6:7? Did you also grant to yourself your physical attributes? The number of hairs upon your head? What exactly did you give to yourself? To even declare you have given one thing to yourself, you are declaring yourself to be God. Did you create yourself? This of course is to play on the false hypothesis that somehow you just happened to have gifted yourself with “faith” and then exercised it and saved yourself to. This versus being saved by His grace.
I’ve provided Scripture showing faith to believe is given from God Himself. It’s not from you.
Why is this decried by the above who disdain God’s Sovereign will (and even if you deny you decry His Sovereignty, you still do)? Do you claim God unfair (unjust) because He solely grants faith? Why didn’t He grant this to every single person? Obviously He claims in His Word that He Himself grants faith. He also chooses to make certain are reserved unto punishment.
I declare that anyone saying they had, possessed, their own faith, that they are saying that they granted this to themselves, and are claiming to be their own Sovereign against God’s Word and reject the truth of Scripture that He Himself alone grants faith.
No need for your logic, just proof from God’s Word that you had your own faith, inherently, given to you, by you, that it was definitely not a gift from God, but wholly from you, granted by you to you that helped save your soul. This is what you have argued against, that it is not a gift, now prove it.
Clearly here, faith is referred to as something we have received. What do any of us have that we did not receive?
Romans 12:3 For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith.
Yet another passage proclaiming God as the One who has granted to believers their faith.
Php 1:29 For to you it has been granted for Christ's sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,
Yet another passage declaring faith, or belief in Christ as a gift that God Himself has given to believers, or more specifically, His elect.
Arminians. Semi-Pelagians. Pelagians. Those that deny they are such, yet are. Anti-Calvinists. These groups attack this tenet in Scriptures that declare God has even granted to us the very faith that we do have. They demand their rights in this, and declare they had their own faith.
I’ve provided Scriptures proving faith a gift. Many of you argue that it is not the case. And you have nothing in Gods Word to back it up.
Show me one verse or passage of Scriptures that prove you exercised a faith that you inherently had within yourself, and did so out of some free will also that you had in yourself, given to you by yourself. And then explain how you gave this gift to yourself before birth.
Now, it is established it is a gift from God. Sovereignly He grants it. The Scriptures back it up.
Now, let’s say you did inherently have this faith within yourself, where then did it come from? You? Think of how absurd that is, like you’ve created anything, as if you have anything that you have not received from God. If you are arguing against this what exactly do you possess that you did not receive from God? We brought how much into this world, 1 Timothy 6:7? Did you also grant to yourself your physical attributes? The number of hairs upon your head? What exactly did you give to yourself? To even declare you have given one thing to yourself, you are declaring yourself to be God. Did you create yourself? This of course is to play on the false hypothesis that somehow you just happened to have gifted yourself with “faith” and then exercised it and saved yourself to. This versus being saved by His grace.
I’ve provided Scripture showing faith to believe is given from God Himself. It’s not from you.
Why is this decried by the above who disdain God’s Sovereign will (and even if you deny you decry His Sovereignty, you still do)? Do you claim God unfair (unjust) because He solely grants faith? Why didn’t He grant this to every single person? Obviously He claims in His Word that He Himself grants faith. He also chooses to make certain are reserved unto punishment.
I declare that anyone saying they had, possessed, their own faith, that they are saying that they granted this to themselves, and are claiming to be their own Sovereign against God’s Word and reject the truth of Scripture that He Himself alone grants faith.
No need for your logic, just proof from God’s Word that you had your own faith, inherently, given to you, by you, that it was definitely not a gift from God, but wholly from you, granted by you to you that helped save your soul. This is what you have argued against, that it is not a gift, now prove it.
