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Fact, all Biblical eschatology was future when written.
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Fake Eschatology, continued from previous thread
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Pretty much all prophecy would be!
The preterist myth is so obviously false that it IS goofy; almost-hilarious. And anyone teaching such a false doctrine is not God-sent.
I agree. But the Jews have kept it up as best they can without a temple or priests.[/COLOR]
I grasp it quite well, better than you do.While J & the temple were destroyed as the culmination of the days of vengeance, the main events have NOT yet occurred.
Moslems have simply killed Christians in many lands, such as Iran & Afghanistan, and wherever ISIS has been able to take at least temporary control. And there are other examples not involving Moslems, such as the missionary who went onto an island off the coast of India where its people don't allow outsiders for any reason, who became a target for spear and arrow practice. And you may or may not remember the song "Missionary Stew" (1966) by Harry Flynt & the Insurrections.
I think all you wanna do is argue and insult. Try PROVIDING SOME EVIDENCE for your pret myth, such as a reliable source of history telling us when the AOD occurred, who the beast was, etc.There it is...all the puritans and reformers missed it, ROBY IS GOD SENT
There it is...all the puritans and reformers missed it, ROBY IS GOD SENT
First of all let me say I'm an Ancient Biblical Historical buff... As long as I have been on here and you and some of the brethren know where I come from and what I believe... And Roby let me make an observation, you believe in secular modern day history and are quite the war historian but when it comes to prophecy, that has already come to pass, you are still in the dark... The only prophecy I know yet to come is the final resurrection, to take us all home... So Roby, don't you think its time to get your head out of the sand?... Brother Glen
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@robycop3,
Their whole misinterpretation is tied up in Matthew 24:1-2. The questions His disciples asked and what Jesus did not answer. Also supposing only His disciples were to see those events in some way, Matthew 24:33-34. It was all future when Matthew wrote it. And we know Matthew 24:4 on still is at this time.
Their whole misinterpretation is tied up in Matthew 24:1-2. The questions His disciples asked and what Jesus did not answer. Also supposing only His disciples were to see those events in some way, Matthew 24:33-34. It was all future when Matthew wrote it. And we know Matthew 24:4 on still is at this time.
when have you ever been dragged into a synagogue in Jerusalem? You totally missed the point of what I posted.
You have fun inventing your DIY end times stories outside of scripture.
You are deluded because you do not compare mt.24 with lk.21
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Ad hominem, that I am deluded because I presented no comparisons between Matthew's and Luke's accounts.
No, not ad hominem, but deluded;
Definition of deluded: deceived by false beliefs,
1. To cause to hold a false belief; deceive thoroughly: To elude or evade.
You evade by fragmenting the first two verses, hoping to avoid the obvious.
One reason I fled dispensational thought was this kind of evasion and what I understand as fragmenting the scripture.Thanks Tony... Bookends!... That one just slipped my mind!... Brother Glen
They have different "kinds" of saints, regular saints, tribulation saints, jew and gentile separate after the cross, this was not written to us, etc.
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Matthew, Mark and Luke,
Three different questions asked by Jesus' disciples.
Matthew 24:3,
". . . And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be?
". . .and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?"
Mark 13:3-4,
". . .And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, Tell us, when shall these things be?
". . . and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?"
Luke 21:7,
". . . And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be?
". . . and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?"
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notice in mt 24:3 it is the end of THE AGE, not the end of the world...changes things a bit, don't you think?
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3 And when he is sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples came near to him by himself, saying, `Tell us, when shall these be? and what [is] the sign of thy presence, and of the full end of the age?'
mounce;
and the consummation of the age......aiōn?”
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3 And when he is sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples came near to him by himself, saying, `Tell us, when shall these be? and what [is] the sign of thy presence, and of the full end of the age?'
mounce;
and the consummation of the age......aiōn?”
yessir ... I think this is validated in Ez 42 (maybe 43? ... I get cross wired which is the measurement and which is the "God Mobile" presence ... e.g. All 3 persons of the Triune God inhabiting The Temple ... prior to antichrist's desecration ... and is how the High Priest knows antichrist AIN'T God ... ~"He was here 30 minutes ago, I saw the nail scarred hands")) ... the 300reed wall which separates the Holy from the "profane thing."
I believe that's the 3rd Temple on Temple Mount .... NEXT to the DOR.
Let's talk about the goofy idea that Christ is coming back to a temple built with hands, to reward His disciples with a temporal kingdom wherein the flinging of the blood of animals is acceptable worship.
I'll ask you same as I have other preterists...First of all let me say I'm an Ancient Biblical Historical buff... As long as I have been on here and you and some of the brethren know where I come from and what I believe... And Roby let me make an observation, you believe in secular modern day history and are quite the war historian but when it comes to prophecy, that has already come to pass, you are still in the dark... The only prophecy I know yet to come is the final resurrection, to take us all home... So Roby, don't you think its time to get your head out of the sand?... Brother Glen
Please tell us the name of the beast.
Please tell us the name of the false prophet.
Please tell us when the beast committed the AOD.
Please describe what the mark of the beast looked like.
Please tell us when all life in the Mediterranean Sea died.
Please tell us when the great trib occurred worldwide, as Jesus said it would.
Please tell us when the beast & false prophet were cast alive into hell.
I have a question or so relative to the OP and or the time thereof.
Luke 21:28 YLT and these things beginning to happen bend yourselves back, and lift up your heads, because your redemption doth draw nigh.'
Rom 8:23 YLT And not only so, but also we ourselves, having the first-fruit of the Spirit, we also ourselves in ourselves do groan, adoption expecting -- the redemption of our body;
Is redemption, in both, of the same moment?
Has that moment taken place or still of the future?
Is that, redemption, either or both found in this? For our citizenship is in the heavens, whence also a Saviour we await -- the Lord Jesus Christ -- who shall transform the body of our humiliation to its becoming conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working of his power, even to subject to himself the all things. Phil 3:20,21 YLT
Rom 8:29 YLT because whom He did foreknow, He also did fore-appoint, conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be first-born among many brethren;
conformed to the image of His Son - conformed to the body of his glory < When did that take place for Jesus Christ who came in flesh? This? And himself is the head of the body -- the assembly -- who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in all things -- himself -- first, Col 1:18 Is that the body of his glory?
Luke 21:28 YLT and these things beginning to happen bend yourselves back, and lift up your heads, because your redemption doth draw nigh.'
Rom 8:23 YLT And not only so, but also we ourselves, having the first-fruit of the Spirit, we also ourselves in ourselves do groan, adoption expecting -- the redemption of our body;
Is redemption, in both, of the same moment?
Has that moment taken place or still of the future?
Is that, redemption, either or both found in this? For our citizenship is in the heavens, whence also a Saviour we await -- the Lord Jesus Christ -- who shall transform the body of our humiliation to its becoming conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working of his power, even to subject to himself the all things. Phil 3:20,21 YLT
Rom 8:29 YLT because whom He did foreknow, He also did fore-appoint, conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be first-born among many brethren;
conformed to the image of His Son - conformed to the body of his glory < When did that take place for Jesus Christ who came in flesh? This? And himself is the head of the body -- the assembly -- who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in all things -- himself -- first, Col 1:18 Is that the body of his glory?
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