Favorite Album/CD

I have two. My most favorite would be my pastor's wife, Miss Joyce singing hymns. The actual title to it is "Joyce Batchelor- He Wore My Crown"
Then, my next favorite would be "The Rochester Family- Heratige." Hehe, I like EVERYTHING they sing, and have a lot of it, but this one is my favorite. Those songs will make you cry or shout! It's hymns and songs they've writtin and it all has a wonderful gospel messege to it. I think my all time favorite song they sing on "Heratige" or any CD of theirs for that matter is "This Blessed Old Book!"
~Miss Abby
Proverbs 31:30 KJB

 

Amen sister! I like the Rochesters to, every year we have them come to our church and they are such a blessing. It is good to have Godly music in church that honors and praises God. Also like the McKamey's, Sound Doctrine, and the Drummonds.

Dear sister, if you like the Rochesters, you make like this site. The Drummonds are also on this page. Go about 3/4 the way down and listen to "I Bow On My Knees." This is a live song they sung during a church service, just makes you want to get up and start SHOUTING!
http://hometown.aol.com/jhscottv/audio6.html

 

No it does not. The Bible says "Spiritual songs" and you say "not spiritual."

 

We're gonna have to start from scratch.

Homebound, is "Happy Birthday" wrong, sinful, evil, etc. etc.?

 

Okay I'm not talking about "Happy Birthday," "Working on the railroad" or such songs as these. I'm talking about songs that influence alcohol, drugs, prositution, murder, devil worship, and things like this.

 

But you're aware that the vast, vast majority of mainstream music has nothing to do with these things, aren't you?

Other than "Walk on the Wild Side", I can't think of a song about prostitution and "devil worship" is so seldom sung about out side of a very, very small niche, that I don't know that it's really reasonable to introduce it into this discussion.

Now, when you say that they "influence" these things, do you mean encourage them or merely tell a story about someone who may have had these things happen in his life?

I mean, would you put "Miller, Jack and Mad Dog", which strongly warns against alcohol abuse in the same category as "One Bourbon, One Shot, One Beer", which encourages it?

Would you really put "Young Boy, Young Girl", which strongly encourages pre-marital abstinance in the same category as "You've Never Been This Far Before", which encourages pre-marital sex?

[ October 16, 2003, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: Mike McK ]

 

I would say all of that to some degree.

If "Miller, Jack, and Mad Dog" really wanted to stop alcohol abuse, they would stop making that SIN.

I don't know who or what you are talking about.

 

First, are you coming off your earlier quote that "If any music does not honor God, it is not acceptable?" It seems that you are admitting that there can be music that is neutral with respect to being for God or against God. IMHO, I think that there is a smooth continuum from perfectly honoring to God to perfectly dishonoring God. Where is the line to be drawn? Is secular music that does not talk about "alcohol, drugs, prositution, murder, devil worship, and things like this" OK to listen to? What about classical music to mention the normal example of music that should be OK to listen to but that is not directly God nonoring?

Second, there is the occasional thread about acceptable secular lyrics. One is dying a slow death right now. In it I posted some lyrics from my favorite band (secular). In fact, my screen name is an acronym of a song of theirs about the betrayal. I won't post all the lyrics I posted earlier, you can go read them if you want, but here is a snippet. Do you think, based on what I give you, that this would be acceptable secular mucic. Sorry for repeating myself so soon.

U2 - "Forty"

I waited patiently for the Lord
He inclined and heard my cry
He brought me up out of the pit
Out of the miry clay

I will sing, sing a new song (X2)

How long to sing this song (X4)

He set my feet upon a rock
And made my footsteps firm
Many will see
Many will see and hear

I will sing, sing a new song (X4)

How long to sing this song (X4)

U2 - "Tomorrow"

...
Who broke the window
Who broke down the door
Who tore the curtain
And who was it for
Who heals the wounds
Who heals the scars
Open the door
Open the door
...
Open up, open up to the love of God
To the love of He who made the blind to see
He's coming back
He's coming back
I believe Him
Jesus is coming
I'm gonna be there
I'm gonna be there, mother
I'm gonna be there, mother
I'm gonna be there
And you’re gonna be there

U2 - "With A Shout"

Oh, where do we go
Where do we go from here
Where to go

To the side of a hill, blood was spilt
We were still looking at each other
But we're going back there
Jerusalem
Jerusalem

Shout, shout
With a shout
Shout it out
Shout
Shout it out

I want to go to the foot of Mount Zion
To the foot of He who made me see

To the side of a hill, where we were still
We were filled with a love
And we're going to be there again
Jerusalem
Jerusalem
...

Mind you that this is a snippet of lyrics and their music spans a wide range of topics with more nonreligious topics than religious topics. But this should give you an idea of the perspective of the band when religious topics are brought up. But there is no doubt that this is a secular band and someone who really wanted to could make them look like not so nice people by selectively pulling a few items from their rock-and-roll lives.

 

So then, you're equally as outraged about news anchors who tell the story of all sorts of sordid behavior?

But what sin? How is a song that warns against alcohol abuse a sin?

In fact, the song is so strong in it's admonition against it that the National Highway Safety Administration has adopted the song in it's campaign against drunk driving.

I'm talking about defing the terms you're using and whether you lump two songs together even though they have completely different meanings and messages.

You're saying that any song that "influences" sex (by the way, you've never defined what you mean by "influence") is sin and I'm asking you why a song that encourages pre-marital abstinance is lumped in with a song that encourages pre-marital infidelity.

 

Any song that promotes or influences drugs, sex, alcohol, smoking, etc. is wrong for a Christian to listen to. Also, I believe that a Christian should not listen to any artist who performs the things mentioned above, no matter what they sing.

 

I can only think of three songs about smoking, "Two Cigarettes in an Ashtray", "Smoke, Smoke, Smoke (The Cigarette)" and "Cigarettes and Whiskey (and Wild, Wild, Women)", and two of those three are solidly anti-smoking. Is this really a problem?

But in addition to not telling us how you're defining "influence", you're not answering the question of why, if it's wrong to tell a story about someone who engages in a harmful behavior, the opposite isn't true and that it's a good thing to sing a song that encourages virtuous behavior or discourages bad behavior. I don't know how you can have it both ways.

I'm curious to know on what moral grounds you would judge a song that encourages teenagers to choose pre-marital abstinence as a bad thing. I would think a Christian would be doing backflips at the idea of Christian morality being injected into popular culture. But then, I suppose it's always easier to curse the darkness than to light a candle.

You also haven't told us how simply telling a story, which takes a neutral stand on these things, is morally worse than reporting a news story.

 

Now that you have made this statement, what about these lyrics? Follow this link.

Are you saying that you now embrace CCM?

 

Great line! I love it! May I have your permission to use it during a message this week?

 

Great line! I love it! May I have your permission to use it during a message this week? </font>[/QUOTE]Of course. Do I get royalties?

 

Great line! I love it! May I have your permission to use it during a message this week? </font>[/QUOTE]Of course. Do I get royalties? </font>[/QUOTE]What if I give you the honorary title of "High Knight of Ocala, Florida." I don't think I have the power to make you royal. You'd have to marry my cousin or something to become royalty.

 

I’m sure there are more out there. These 3 are way too many.

In my old days I would watch MTV, VH1 and other shows like this and see the bands living this way, giving a beer toast to the camera, blowing smoke in the camera and things like this.

Just because a song encourages pre-marital abstinence does not make the song right. I believe the devil puts a little good in something to get the crowd in.

Light and darkness cannot dwell together. With your approach, it would be fine to sing a 3 minute song about the devil and then at the last 5 seconds say something about Jesus. Didn’t the Rolling Stones try to do this with “Sympathy for the devil?”

Are you saying that it is okay to agree with something as long as it don’t affect you?

 

So a song that says "don't smoke" is bad.

So a song that says, "Wait until you are married to have sex" is bad. Amazing.

By your same logic, a song should talk about the devil. Oops - there goes "A Mighty Fortress is Our God." It talks about the devil, so we shouldn't sing it.

What a silly position you make.

 

I have too many favorites to list, but here are my FAVORITE favorites.

Christian
The Holy Bible - Statler Brothers

Secular
Amazed - Lonestar

 

I used to love Slayer but one day I played a record of theirs backwards and it distinctly said "Jesus is not Lord", so I stopped listening to them.

 

Like I said, two of these three are decidedly anti-smoking. Why is it a bad thing to encourage people not to smoke?

But what you're describing is the behavior of certain artists and we're talking about the music, itself.

So then, when you tell a young person that they should save themselves for marriage, you're acting under the influence of Satan?

Actually, that's not my approach. None of the songs I've brought up have anything to do with the devil.

Again, you're assuming way too much and being led by your bias against the music, rather than judging the music on it's own merits.

Huh?