Favorite/most challenging book you have read?

[preacher4truth]

Let's see, we have Washer and MacArthur slammed, falsely accused, no given proof, and now added to the mix is name calling. Yep, that's definitely hubris. Congrats, you're still on the same slanderous path.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

If I am wrong in saying John MacArthur teaches LS, then so is everyone who has written about it: Martuneac, Pickering, Ryrie and many others. I'm in good company.
This is totally untrue. I do not teach what you call "say a prayer on your way to heaven easy-believism." In fact, I have actively opposed this in my ministry: in my Japanese textbook on personal evangelism, my church, my teaching ministry and directly to the president of the Bible school I taught in at the time down in Tokyo.

This makes you a bearer of false witness, which is condemned over and over in the Bible, including especially the Decalogue, where your action in bearing false witness is classified along with idolatry, murder, adultery, etc.

Thus, I am immediately putting you on my ignore list.

It's a nice retort, but it really accomplishes nothing. Denials are ignored by this crowd, and they love to gang up on those they perceive as "the wounded." I'm with QF. Stick to the "ignore."

 

[quantumfaith]

Hubris--a nice way to put it! :thumbsup:

I try to be reasonably nice, but I often "backslide".

 

[John of Japan]

It's a nice retort, but it really accomplishes nothing. Denials are ignored by this crowd, and they love to gang up on those they perceive as "the wounded." I'm with QF. Stick to the "ignore."

Ignore is a blessed feature here. :thumbs: Maybe they think I'm wounded, but I'm not. :smilewinkgrin:

Actually, though, I was quite shocked at preacher4truth's term "greasy grace." What an awful way to talk about the blessed grace of our Father in Heaven, even if you are expressing disagreement with someone else's view on it!

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

What an awful way to talk about the blessed grace of our Father in Heaven, even if you are expressing disagreement with someone else's view on it!

Amen, brother! :thumbsup:

 

[Crabtownboy]

Actually, though, I was quite shocked at preacher4truth's term "greasy grace." What an awful way to talk about the blessed grace of our Father in Heaven, even if you are expressing disagreement with someone else's view on it!

Did not see the "greasy grace" post ... never heard that term. D. Bonhoeffer spoke of cheap grace and I believe he is accurate in his definition of that false grace.

Being curious I did a search on the terms "greasy grace" and found the following:

I heard a new term the other day that I'd never heard before. I don't know why, since when I looked it up,I must be the only one that hasn't. The term is "greasy grace" and I'm told it is a stock phrase in fire-and-brimstone preaching in the Deep South.

I love fire-and-brimstone preaching, and I've spent a goodly part of my life in the Deep South, but it is a phrase I'd never come across, nonetheless, so I had to look it up.

The phrase, "greasy grace" is used to describe people who "abuse the liberty" that comes with saving grace by living like the devil.

I grew up in the South and do not remember any preacher using the term.

You spoke of the blessed grace of our Father in Heaven ... that true grace is neither cheap nor greasy.

Blessings.

 

[Dr. Bob]

"The Vanishing Ministry" by Woodrow Kroll (who was head of Back to the Bible at the time of writing)

Indictment of me personally and my generation. Sobering and challenging, paperback that should be on every pastor's must-read-every-year list. Think he updated it ten years ago, but here is a link

http://www.christianbook.com/the-va...de=WW&netp_id=270215&event=ESRCG&view=details

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Excellent choice.

 

[quantumfaith]

Adding my 2 cents:

Time and Eternity: Exploring God's relationship to time. (William Lane Craig)

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Another good work is Personal Declension and Revival of Religion in the Soul by Otavius Winslow

 

[asterisktom]

Books that stand out over the years, in the order that I read them, as really challenging my thinking are:
Today's Gospel: Authentic or Synthetic - Chantry
Decision Making and the Will of God - Friessen
Knowing God - Packer
The Parousia - Russell
Christologia - John Owen

 

[John of Japan]

Did not see the "greasy grace" post ... never heard that term. D. Bonhoeffer spoke of cheap grace and I believe he is accurate in his definition of that false grace.

Being curious I did a search on the terms "greasy grace" and found the following:

Interesting. Thanks for the quote.

I grew up in the South and do not remember any preacher using the term.

I lived a lot of years in Tennessee and have preached all over the South on deputation and furlough, and never heard the term. I did see a "Coon Dog Cemetery" in Alabama once, though--which makes more sense to me in all kinds of ways than "greasy grace."

You spoke of the blessed grace of our Father in Heaven ... that true grace is neither cheap nor greasy.

Blessings.

Amen! Definitely a terrible way to talk about God's grace.

 

[quantumfaith]

Books that stand out over the years, in the order that I read them, as really challenging my thinking are:
Today's Gospel: Authentic or Synthetic - Chantry
Decision Making and the Will of God - Friessen
Knowing God - Packer
The Parousia - Russell
Christologia - John Owen

I too was very much challenged by Friessen's book. Great read.