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Favorite Study bible, and why?

Garrett20

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1. ESV study Bible. Good book introduction, helpful maps, great study notes and very helpful articles on things like textual criticism and christian ethics in the back. When you come accross verses that are debated in meaning, the study Bible often provides multiple interpretations. While this study Bibke has been out for a while now, it is still the best overall study Bible available in my opinion.

2. NIV Zondervan/Biblical Theology Study Bible. While I wish the translation would have done 5 or 6 verses differently, it is still a very helpful translation that easy to read for many people. Great study notes and book introductions. It's old testament notes seem more comprehensive than even the ESV Study Bible. Has a few articles in the back that are very helpful.

3. Reformation Study Bible (ESV edition). I specify the ESV over the NKJV, not due to the ESV being a better translation, but due to the under lying greek texts used. Book introductions are better than the ESV study Bible. Annotations found in the NT are very good, however the OT notes are often lacking in quantity. The Confessions in the back are neat to have in a Bible.

4. MacArthur study Bible. JMac's study Bible is helpful, but I have found him more than once belittling other orthodox positions. Lacks the quality book introductions and maps has the ones above.

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Thank you sir. Very informative. I use the NKJV Reformation Study Bible over the ESV for the same reason. Ha.. I have mainly used MacArthur’s NKJV study Bible over all others but I agree with what you wrote about his. My wife bought me a Vines Expository Bible also. I don’t use it as much but it’s a great Bible and the genuine leather is great.
 

Rippon2

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Mine pretty much lines up except for certain areas with the 1689 LBCF, what's wrong with that?
You know I am not speaking of the LBCof F. I am speaking of your constant fabrications regarding the NIV over a period of a decade and a half. Indeed, you can't even manage to read a three page document. You make things up out of thin air. I call you on it and yet you continue on with your absurdities. You misrepresent, evade and spout irrelevancies. Your links usually fail you. They have nothing to do with your claims, mention nothing of which you claim or entirely go against your narratives.

You are a grown man with adult children but act like a preteen. I present facts and you don't address them. You run and hide. You quote entire posts of mine and deal with nothing I've stated. You ask the same inane questions hundreds of times when I and others have dealt with them repeatedly.

The main gripe I have about you is that you have violated a core principle of the Word of God --you bare false witness on a regular basis. Christians are called upon to be truthful. The ninth commandment makes that clear. But you show a lack of integrity. And, of course, you show no sign of remorse and a commitment to forsake your ways.

Another thing is that you are careless with your posts. It's like you just throw anything on the screen without thinking about it. You show an unwillingness to edit so that people can understand your gibberish. You post way too much. If you'd cut back considerably you could spent some time to actually read the Scripture or Christian books. You would stop posting all kinds of questions that have been dealt with at least scores of times --you have engaged with the same material over and over yet ask the same questions incessantly.
 

McCree79

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Thank you sir. Very informative. I use the NKJV Reformation Study Bible over the ESV for the same reason. Ha.. I have mainly used MacArthur’s NKJV study Bible over all others but I agree with what you wrote about his. My wife bought me a Vines Expository Bible also. I don’t use it as much but it’s a great Bible and the genuine leather is great.
The NKJV and ESV are both great translations. One should pick between the two based on underlying Greek preferences. If you are a TR fan, you made the right choice with the NKJV. Fantastic version.

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Garrett20

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The NKJV and ESV are both great translations. One should pick between the two based on underlying Greek preferences. If you are a TR fan, you made the right choice with the NKJV. Fantastic version.

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Well said. I am more of a ‘Byzantine text-form preferred’ type over the TR specifically. The NKJV is an excellent work that represents that stream of transmission. The ESV is one I go to frequently though. Both carry on the KJV’s beautiful English as well in my opinion.
 

alexander284

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I like the ESV Student Study Bible. It's basically a condensed version of the ESV Study Bible (or Crossway's answer to Zondervan's NIV Study Bible).

And it's certainly a lot easier to lug around (as opposed to it's big brother, the ESV Study Bible)! ;)
 

Yeshua1

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You know I am not speaking of the LBCof F. I am speaking of your constant fabrications regarding the NIV over a period of a decade and a half. Indeed, you can't even manage to read a three page document. You make things up out of thin air. I call you on it and yet you continue on with your absurdities. You misrepresent, evade and spout irrelevancies. Your links usually fail you. They have nothing to do with your claims, mention nothing of which you claim or entirely go against your narratives.

You are a grown man with adult children but act like a preteen. I present facts and you don't address them. You run and hide. You quote entire posts of mine and deal with nothing I've stated. You ask the same inane questions hundreds of times when I and others have dealt with them repeatedly.

The main gripe I have about you is that you have violated a core principle of the Word of God --you bare false witness on a regular basis. Christians are called upon to be truthful. The ninth commandment makes that clear. But you show a lack of integrity. And, of course, you show no sign of remorse and a commitment to forsake your ways.

Another thing is that you are careless with your posts. It's like you just throw anything on the screen without thinking about it. You show an unwillingness to edit so that people can understand your gibberish. You post way too much. If you'd cut back considerably you could spent some time to actually read the Scripture or Christian books. You would stop posting all kinds of questions that have been dealt with at least scores of times --you have engaged with the same material over and over yet ask the same questions incessantly.
The real problem is that you view the Niv in ther same fashion as KJVO view the Kjv, as both of you seem to not accept that there are areas with legit concerns over how they chose to translate their passages!
And the Niv 2011 still does have real issues in how they treated inclusive gender issues!
 

Yeshua1

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The NKJV and ESV are both great translations. One should pick between the two based on underlying Greek preferences. If you are a TR fan, you made the right choice with the NKJV. Fantastic version.

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Agreed, as serious students of the Bible should be using either those 2, or the Nas also!
I just wish the Sproul reformation came in the nas!
 

Yeshua1

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Well said. I am more of a ‘Byzantine text-form preferred’ type over the TR specifically. The NKJV is an excellent work that represents that stream of transmission. The ESV is one I go to frequently though. Both carry on the KJV’s beautiful English as well in my opinion.
have you tried out the 1995 nas yet?
 

Yeshua1

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I like the ESV Student Study Bible. It's basically a condensed version of the ESV Study Bible (or Crossway's answer to Zondervan's NIV Study Bible).

And it's certainly a lot easier to lug around (as opposed to it's big brother, the ESV Study Bible)! ;)
I recently picked up a esv SB in the personal size edition, and it now my go to bible!
 

Yeshua1

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There are real problems with your disconnect and evasions. I realize it's not a comfortable thing to come to grips with your intentional misrepresentations regarding the NIV -- but a confession of your gross misrepresentations is needed.

All of the entirely false things you have asserted about the NIV for the past number of years should shame someone claiming to be a Christian. The CSB uses almost as much inclusive language as the NIV and the NLT uses more. Thankfully you haven't lied about those two translations --only the NIV. But to be consistent --which you certainly are not --would compel you to lie about those other two versions as well. It all boils down to the text itself. As I have told you hundreds of times if your assertions are true it would be in the text. Yet none of your allegations are found there. Consequently it proves that you have made things up. --Not a good testimony.
I think that you seem to be unable to grasp the simple truth that while many saw the 1984 Niv as beig a good translation, that the revisions done to the 2011 edition made it move to being seen as unacceptable by some, or else made worse than the 1984 by others!
 

Yeshua1

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What you do not appreciate is that your lies about the NIV do not ungird your testimony. If your charges are not in the text, that means you have been making things up all along. Your favorite versions all condemn your practice. Do not twist the Scriptures.
Gender inclusive language is some instances distorts the very meaning God intended for us to have!
 

Rippon2

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Gender inclusive language is some instances distorts the very meaning God intended for us to have!
Don't merely assert -- give examples from the text. But that is something you never done. If your charges are not found in the text, you are just making things up. That's not a good testimony. I am the one who uses the NIV as my primary translation. I doubt you have the edition. You will have to go to Biblegateway. But you are not the type to do any hard work on your own. It's easy for you to throw mud and hope something sticks, which is morally reprehensive.
 

Yeshua1

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Don't merely assert -- give examples from the text. But that is something you never done. If your charges are not found in the text, you are just making things up. That's not a good testimony. I am the one who uses the NIV as my primary translation. I doubt you have the edition. You will have to go to Biblegateway. But you are not the type to do any hard work on your own. It's easy for you to throw mud and hope something sticks, which is morally reprehensive.
Psalm 8, and Junia as an Apostle!
 

Rippon2

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Psalm 8, and Junia as an Apostle!
Could you please come up with something new? I have gone over each of the above too many times for you not to have gotten the message. Besides dealing with those two subjects has nothing to do with inclusive language.
 

Yeshua1

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Could you please come up with something new? I have gone over each of the above too many times for you not to have gotten the message. Besides dealing with those two subjects has nothing to do with inclusive language.
Just areas where they could have been improved!
 

Rippon2

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Just areas where they could have been improved!
I have provided quotes from many other Bible translations that dealt with Psalm 8 the way the NIV handled it. The NIV is not unique in that regard. I have also provided the text from many translations that approximate how the NIV worded Romans 15:7. The NASB renders it exactly as the NIV as I have told you many times. If you could try to improve your English ability, you would understand that Junia was esteemed by the apostles.
 

Yeshua1

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I have provided quotes from many other Bible translations that dealt with Psalm 8 the way the NIV handled it. The NIV is not unique in that regard. I have also provided the text from many translations that approximate how the NIV worded Romans 15:7. The NASB renders it exactly as the NIV as I have told you many times. If you could try to improve your English ability, you would understand that Junia was esteemed by the apostles.
true, but was not an Apostle....
 

Garrett20

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have you tried out the 1995 nas yet?

Yes, I don’t mind the NASB at all. Typically when reviewing a passage I go to it to check their translation. It has the same textual base as the ESV. Did they update it recently? I’ve heard they were planning on it. I see Zondervan is publishing more NASB Bibles lately.
 

Yeshua1

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Yes, I don’t mind the NASB at all. Typically when reviewing a passage I go to it to check their translation. It has the same textual base as the ESV. Did they update it recently? I’ve heard they were planning on it. I see Zondervan is publishing more NASB Bibles lately.
Zondervan has what looks like will eb a great collection of nas bible in their premier line now, but do have fears that ther 2020 revision will be for the worst, as looks like heading heading towards some more inclusive languaging now!
 
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