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[Reynolds]

Rippon!... I read in your profile that you are an English teacher... You should know better! Shame on you... Brother Glen

I ain't no English teacher. You done some misreading somewhere.

I can write the English of the queen. I simply choose not to do so.

 

[tyndale1946]

I ain't no English teacher. You done some misreading somewhere.

I can write the English of the queen. I simply choose not to do so.

I was quoting what you said in regards to updating classical literature from generation to generation... I checked Rippon's profile out he is an English teacher by occupation and you are manufacturing... The profile reveals what you want revealed... Brother Glen

 

[Rippon]

Is KJV my heart language?... Yes it is... My heart to Gods heart...

Well, I guess the term "heart language" can be taken that way. I meant it as the language you naturally speak.

Now I have one for you... I welcome another member on here that happens to wonder if any others on here read the KJV and I comment I do... Then lo and behold you appear and question my reading and studying of the KJV... What you are implying to me is that the KJV is inferior to other translations and a better one should be used... You use the one or ones you want and l will continue posting the KJV... Brother Glen

Oh no! Hold up there. I'm not your enemy. I was simply maintaining the fact that you and I do not speak English that they did 500 hundred years ago. William Tyndale would not have advocated that a translation made that long ago should remain static. He was an advocate of putting the language in contemporary speech.Remember his plowboy remark? Do you agree or disagree with his idea?

 

[Rippon]

Using your line of thought, why is the classic literature not updated each generation?

I would maintain that the Bible is in a class of its own. Classical literature is far inferior than the Word of God. Translations of the Word of God in any language should be in the way people speak currently.

 

[Rippon]

Rippon!... I read in your profile that you are an English teacher... You should know better! Shame on you... Brother Glen

What exactly should I know better? What shame should I feel?

 

[Reynolds]

I would maintain that the Bible is in a class of its own. Classical literature is far inferior than the Word of God. Translations of the Word of God in any language should be in the way people speak currently.

I keep waiting for the Ebonics, gangbanger translation.

 

[Deacon]

I keep waiting for the Ebonics, gangbanger translation.

And on the other end of the spectrum...

Matthew 3
Some years later, along come John the Baptist, preachin in the wilderness of Judea, 2. Sayin, Get right: the kingdom of heaven is purt near here. 3. John was the one that the prophet Esaias talked about, sayin, One hollerin in the wilderness, Yall lay the road for the Lord, and make his road straight, on a even grade. 4. Now John didn't wear nothin but camel hide and a leather belt; and all he ever et was grasshoppers and wild honey, ever meal of the day. 5. Everbody in Jerusalem, and Judea and all the country round about Jordan went out to see him, 6. And got baptized by John in the Jordan, and confessed they sins. 7. But when he seen that a right smart of the Pharisees and Sadducees had come down to the river, he said, You bunch of snakes, didn't I tell you to run from the whoopin yall bout to git? 8. Do somethin to show God you're sorry: 9. And don't try to tell me, We are the sons of Abraham: cause I'm tellin you that God can make Him some more sons of Abraham out of these here rocks. 10. The axe is just about to come down on the trees: and ever tree without good fruit is fixin to be cut down, and throwed in the fire. 11. I baptize you and warsh away your sins with this here water: but the one comin after me is a whole lot stronger; I ain't worthy to tote his shoes: and he's bout to baptize yall with the Holy Ghost and with fire: 12. He's got his fan in his hand, and he'll use it to separate the wheat from the chaff; he's gonna clean house, and put the wheat up in the loft, but he's gonna burn up the chaff with a fire that caint be put out. 13. Then up comes Jesus from Galilee to Jordan; right up to John, lookin to be baptized. 14. But John says, No sir, it oughta be you dunkin me. 15. And Jesus said, Just do what I ask you, cousin; cause it's fittin. So John did. 16. Once Jesus was baptized, he come straight up outten the water, and look, the heavens opened up above him, and he seen the Spirit of God descendin like a dove, and it lit on him: 17. And listen, a voice from heaven said, This here's my baby boy, and I am tickled with him.
Matthew 3 Deep Southern English Bible​

Kinda linken it, maken me feelin kina tickled m'sef.

Rob

 

[Reynolds]

And on the other end of the spectrum...

Matthew 3
Some years later, along come John the Baptist, preachin in the wilderness of Judea, 2. Sayin, Get right: the kingdom of heaven is purt near here. 3. John was the one that the prophet Esaias talked about, sayin, One hollerin in the wilderness, Yall lay the road for the Lord, and make his road straight, on a even grade. 4. Now John didn't wear nothin but camel hide and a leather belt; and all he ever et was grasshoppers and wild honey, ever meal of the day. 5. Everbody in Jerusalem, and Judea and all the country round about Jordan went out to see him, 6. And got baptized by John in the Jordan, and confessed they sins. 7. But when he seen that a right smart of the Pharisees and Sadducees had come down to the river, he said, You bunch of snakes, didn't I tell you to run from the whoopin yall bout to git? 8. Do somethin to show God you're sorry: 9. And don't try to tell me, We are the sons of Abraham: cause I'm tellin you that God can make Him some more sons of Abraham out of these here rocks. 10. The axe is just about to come down on the trees: and ever tree without good fruit is fixin to be cut down, and throwed in the fire. 11. I baptize you and warsh away your sins with this here water: but the one comin after me is a whole lot stronger; I ain't worthy to tote his shoes: and he's bout to baptize yall with the Holy Ghost and with fire: 12. He's got his fan in his hand, and he'll use it to separate the wheat from the chaff; he's gonna clean house, and put the wheat up in the loft, but he's gonna burn up the chaff with a fire that caint be put out. 13. Then up comes Jesus from Galilee to Jordan; right up to John, lookin to be baptized. 14. But John says, No sir, it oughta be you dunkin me. 15. And Jesus said, Just do what I ask you, cousin; cause it's fittin. So John did. 16. Once Jesus was baptized, he come straight up outten the water, and look, the heavens opened up above him, and he seen the Spirit of God descendin like a dove, and it lit on him: 17. And listen, a voice from heaven said, This here's my baby boy, and I am tickled with him.
Matthew 3 Deep Southern English Bible​

Kinda linken it, maken me feelin kina tickled m'sef.

Rob

Even though that might be how some people, somewhere in the South talk, it is definitely not North Georgia mountain dialect. What you posted does demonstrate a valid point. How far are we willing to go with translation?

 

[Deacon]

How far are we willing to go with translation?

Originally posted by William Tyndale

"I defy the Pope and all his laws. If God spare my life, ere many years I will cause a boy who drives the plough to know more of the scriptures than you do."​

 

[Yeshua1]

I have Fake so I better understand how some of my Pentecostal friends get some of their ideas.

That would be pretty much ground zero for heresy! Dakes is one their big guns use....

 

[Reynolds]

That would be pretty much ground zero for heresy! Dakes is one their big guns use....

You remember in my open in post I qualified my mention of Dake.

 

[tyndale1946]

Matthew 3 Some years later, along come John the Baptist, preachin in the wilderness of Judea, 2. Sayin, Get right: the kingdom of heaven is purt near here. 3. John was the one that the prophet Esaias talked about, sayin, One hollerin in the wilderness, Yall lay the road for the Lord, and make his road straight, on a even grade. 4. Now John didn't wear nothin but camel hide and a leather belt; and all he ever et was grasshoppers and wild honey, ever meal of the day. 5. Everbody in Jerusalem, and Judea and all the country round about Jordan went out to see him, 6. And got baptized by John in the Jordan, and confessed they sins. 7. But when he seen that a right smart of the Pharisees and Sadducees had come down to the river, he said, You bunch of snakes, didn't I tell you to run from the whoopin yall bout to git? 8. Do somethin to show God you're sorry: 9. And don't try to tell me, We are the sons of Abraham: cause I'm tellin you that God can make Him some more sons of Abraham out of these here rocks. 10. The axe is just about to come down on the trees: and ever tree without good fruit is fixin to be cut down, and throwed in the fire. 11. I baptize you and warsh away your sins with this here water: but the one comin after me is a whole lot stronger; I ain't worthy to tote his shoes: and he's bout to baptize yall with the Holy Ghost and with fire: 12. He's got his fan in his hand, and he'll use it to separate the wheat from the chaff; he's gonna clean house, and put the wheat up in the loft, but he's gonna burn up the chaff with a fire that caint be put out. 13. Then up comes Jesus from Galilee to Jordan; right up to John, lookin to be baptized. 14. But John says, No sir, it oughta be you dunkin me. 15. And Jesus said, Just do what I ask you, cousin; cause it's fittin. So John did. 16. Once Jesus was baptized, he come straight up outten the water, and look, the heavens opened up above him, and he seen the Spirit of God descendin like a dove, and it lit on him: 17. And listen, a voice from heaven said, This here's my baby boy, and I am tickled with him.

Matthew 3 Deep Southern English Bible​

Kinda linken it, maken me feelin kina tickled m'sef.

Rob

That has got to be the Redneck translation... Brother Glen

 

[Yeshua1]

You remember in my open in post I qualified my mention of Dake.

Yes, and just notice how many false faith teachers grew up on him!

 

[Jonesy]

Been using the MacArthur Study Bible for 17 years and absolutely love it.

 

[Yeshua1]

Been using the MacArthur Study Bible for 17 years and absolutely love it.

Yes, even though he is a "leaky Dspy"

 

[Ziggy]

I keep waiting for the Ebonics, gangbanger translation.

Done been tried nearly 50 years ago in the Bible Society's journal Bible Translator:


"A Black English Translation of John 3:1–21 with Grammatical Annotations"
Walter A. Wolfram, Ralph W. Fasold

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Thankfully nothing further came of it after black pastors strongly objected.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Originally posted by William Tyndale

"I defy the Pope and all his laws. If God spare my life, ere many years I will cause a boy who drives the plough to know more of the scriptures than you do."​

That is a good reason for improving the education of ploughboys, not for dumbing down the Bible.

 

[Rippon]

That is a good reason for improving the education of ploughboys, not for dumbing down the Bible.

Is the NKJV an example of "dumbing down" the Bible? What about the NASB? Both of these translations do not use some of the phraseology of the KJV --the so-called standard. Both were translated in somewhat more modern speech than the KJV.

Many words from Tyndale and the KJV were dropped from the NASB and NKJV. Is that a sign of dumbing-down?

The term dumbing-down needs to re-evaluated. Putting the original language in more modern colloquial language is not "dumbing-down" at all. Putting God's Holy Word in clear and natural language for people in the 21st century is a God-honoring thing to do as Tyndale himself would agree.

 

[Rob_BW]

Just saw an ad for the ESV Systematic Theology Study Bible, so who's got one?

 

[Van]

Just taking a wild guess here, but "who's got one" will turn out to be Calvinist leaning!