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Fellow Kentuckians, I Have Struck Gold
- Thread starter Bro. Williams
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This is a very informative site,there were articles, I had never seen before.You did strike Gold!!! Elder Slone
This is a very informative site,there were articles, I had never seen before.You did strike Gold!!! Elder Slone
Not only is it good info for Kentucky Baptists but for many states to the west who share a common heritage.
James Suggett the pastor of Great Crossings Baptist Church is buried in my church's cemetery here in Mo. He was the first permanent pastor of my church.
Don't be surprised as you read through a lot of that info to run into a lot of Baptists who were much more "calvinistic" back then than most Baptists are today.
Also I bet you won't find it mentioned in any of that info but Elijah Craig, a prominent Baptist Preacher in KY. invented Bourbon Whiskey. :laugh:
James Suggett the pastor of Great Crossings Baptist Church is buried in my church's cemetery here in Mo. He was the first permanent pastor of my church.
Don't be surprised as you read through a lot of that info to run into a lot of Baptists who were much more "calvinistic" back then than most Baptists are today.
Also I bet you won't find it mentioned in any of that info but Elijah Craig, a prominent Baptist Preacher in KY. invented Bourbon Whiskey. :laugh:
Bro. Williams
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Yes, I understand that there were none perfect, as today. But, we learn to correct the each other when we are wrong and remember we are brethren.
saturneptune
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Thank you for the links.Bro. Williams said:
Tom Butler
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You truly have found a gold mine.
The church which saturneptune and I serve also has a gold mine of its own. Written business meeting minutes chronicle the church life going back to 1901. The minutes of the first ten years (1891-1901) can't be found. The minutes were detailed narratives, recording more than just the action taken by the church. They provide a picture of the changes in the culture reflected in the congregational life.
For instance, our church had a robust congregational government, with no standing committees. If a job needed to be done, an ad hoc committee was given the assignment, reported back to the church, and was dismissed.
Church discipline was routine--and was pretty strict. In 1928, a man was disfellowshiped for gambling. The gambling he did was to invest in the stock market.
Often, those disfellowshipped showed up in the minutes a few weeks later, restored to fellowship.
Our church had a big debate around 1918, whether the Sunday School should be subservient to the church. After much debate, the church said it should.
People who had personal disputes brought their conflicts to the congregation for judification.
Pastor search committees did not exist until about 1930. When a pulpit vacancy occurred, the congregation met and made nominations for pastor. The one with the most votes was contacted. Sometimes he'd accept, sometimes not, and the process started over. Often, the one elected was not even aware he'd been picked, or was going to be nominated.
The last time the minutes record a public disfellowshipping vote was around 1940.
No you can see why I call our church minutes a gold mine, as well.
The church which saturneptune and I serve also has a gold mine of its own. Written business meeting minutes chronicle the church life going back to 1901. The minutes of the first ten years (1891-1901) can't be found. The minutes were detailed narratives, recording more than just the action taken by the church. They provide a picture of the changes in the culture reflected in the congregational life.
For instance, our church had a robust congregational government, with no standing committees. If a job needed to be done, an ad hoc committee was given the assignment, reported back to the church, and was dismissed.
Church discipline was routine--and was pretty strict. In 1928, a man was disfellowshiped for gambling. The gambling he did was to invest in the stock market.
Often, those disfellowshipped showed up in the minutes a few weeks later, restored to fellowship.
Our church had a big debate around 1918, whether the Sunday School should be subservient to the church. After much debate, the church said it should.
People who had personal disputes brought their conflicts to the congregation for judification.
Pastor search committees did not exist until about 1930. When a pulpit vacancy occurred, the congregation met and made nominations for pastor. The one with the most votes was contacted. Sometimes he'd accept, sometimes not, and the process started over. Often, the one elected was not even aware he'd been picked, or was going to be nominated.
The last time the minutes record a public disfellowshipping vote was around 1940.
No you can see why I call our church minutes a gold mine, as well.
You really would have "struck gold", almost literally, if you actually had an original hard copy of either Spencer's History of Baptists in Kentucky, or Collins' KY History.Bro. Williams said:
The former would go for really big bucks, and the second is available for about $150 bucks in reprint for both volumes.
:thumbs: $$$$$ :thumbs: :laugh:
Ed
Bro. Williams
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I found 3 copies of the former. One online for 299.00, in horrible shape, one at a local Bapitst college, and one at a local public library...
If only I could get them to sell them to me... cheap...
If only I could get them to sell them to me... cheap...
Bro. Williams
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NiteShift said:Thanks for the link Bro Williams. There is enough information there to make your head swim, or at least stay busy for a year reading it all.
Btw, my great great great great great great uncle is mentioned in Chapter 24.
That's pretty cool.... my grandfather would be somewhere in there if it talked more about moonshiners....
Bro. Williams
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You are very welcome.
On a serious note, my five (or six) times great grandfather is actually in the book, Squire Boone, Jr., the younger brother, traveling companion, and fellow pioneer and frontiersman with his brother, Daniel Boone, and the first Baptist preacher to set foot "west of the Alleghenies", and probably, Spencer notwithstanding, the first Baptist to ever preach any sermon, in 'Kaintuck', as well.Bro. Williams said:
Granted, he was probably a better frontiersman than he was a preacher.
Ed
Bro. Williams
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Now that is a good story. My great grand-daddy would of been who he preached to...