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Final Authority and Final Canonization

Mexdeaf

New Member
As you might expect....I COMPLETELY disagree with your ideas, conclusions and your subjective opinions in regard to this matter. For the record....it is unfortunately very easy for "regenerate brothers and sisters of the Lord" to commit idolatry and make "a god" (little "g") of their education...it happens all the time..... and there are probably some people on this very Board who may be guilty of it.

Bro.Greg:saint:

For the record....it is unfortunately very easy for "regenerate brothers and sisters of the Lord" to commit idolatry and make "a god" (little "g") of their BIBLE VERSION...it happens all the time.

Just to set the "record" straight.

Nothing wrong with having a preferred version - most believers do - but when you make YOUR version toe be-all-to-end-all and condemn others for not using YOUR version, yup, it's an idol.

Someday I need to post my paraphrase of Romans 14. Just substitute Bible Version (or music, or dress style, or...) for meat and you get the general idea.
 

makahiya117

New Member
That is silly.
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KJV 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:

KJV 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received,
how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day
according to the scriptures.

KJV John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said,
out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.


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The topic is final authority and final canonization.

The question is do you have scripture ?

Please answer the question and state your theory

of final authority and final canonization.
 

Yeshua1

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
We TR/KJV'ers believe that we have a perfect Bible with no mistakes or errors...yes...that is the "doctrine" we hold too. We actually believe as you do that the "Originals" were perfect and without error.....BUT...we go further and believe that that state of "perfection" has been divinely protected and transmitted down through the years by God's supernatural work of Preservation which culminated in the work of translation that produced the Authorized Version or KJV of 1611 in the English language (for english-speakers).

You CT/MV'ers believe that ONLY the now non-existent "Originals" are "perfect" and without error and that no translation is perfect, that they ALL contain mistakes, errors and mis-translations. That is the "doctrine" ya'll believe. That leaves all us "lay-people" wholly dependent on the modern Greek and Hebrew "scholars" to really tell us what the Bible means because we have no pure scriptures upon which we can absolutely depend.

I will agree with you on one thing...you said:

"That's what it is all about. Any doctrine built on half-truths and outright lies should be exposed."

The above is the "gist" of both positions. May all concerned prayerfully decide which they will adhere too and ONLY do so as God directs. The only real important thing is that whichever way anyone goes..they should ONLY choose that which honors God for His sake and His glory. We must chose which position best HONORS God. It is the same acid-test by which we should approach EVERYTHING in our Christian lives as we surrender and submit to His rightful Lordship. (see 1 Cor.10:31)

Bro.Greg:saint:

KJVO confuse inerrancy with infallibility!

ONLY the originals were ithout ANY errors/mistakes within them, as inspired by the Holy spirit moving upon man, to make sure what was recorded was perfect...

We do NOT derive inerrancy off that, but DO get infallibility for Elnglish versions such as Kjv/Nas/Esv/Niv etc!

I DON'T need to have a perfect/error free bible, but I DO need a perfect saviour that it doe the job intended of revealing to me!
 

makahiya117

New Member
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ha . . . ha . . . lol . . . you are silly.

KJV Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.


------------------------ Here are my statements.
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The Record Theory independently answers the questions of final authority
and final canonization (books and words). The dynamic Purified Text Theory
supports the Record Theory, demonstrated categorically and conclusively
in the manuscript evidence, bible canonization, bible doctrine,
billions of bibles and computational linguistics.

While the entire line of scripture are records, the outstanding record of scripture and the scripture of final authority is the published text and form of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible first edition.

KJV Holy Bibles are the most published, read and loved bibles of all time.
KJV Holy Bibles are the most published, read and loved books of all time.


------------------------- Here are your statements.
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KJVO confuse inerrancy with infallibility!
ONLY the originals were ithout ANY errors/mistakes within them,
as inspired by the Holy spirit moving upon man, to make sure what was recorded was perfect...

We do NOT derive inerrancy off that, but DO get infallibility for Elnglish versions such as Kjv/Nas/Esv/Niv etc!

I DON'T need to have a perfect/error free bible, but I DO need a perfect savior that it doe the job intended of revealing to me!
 

Logos1560

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
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KJV Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

Perhaps you are the person wise in his own conceit.

You parrot the same unproven claims and do not engage in serious discussion. You refuse to learn the truth about the inaccuracy of some of your claims and will not correct your mistakes.
 
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