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Alan Gross
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I was just blogging on
THE HOLY SPIRIT ADMINISTERING
to THE LORD'S CHURCHES
that The Holy Spirit,
is
The Executive of the Godhead,
Who Has Been Sent
to Govern The Lord's churches
as
THE HOLY SPIRIT
Appoints the human leaders
over the churches
and added these portions from Gill, as a Blessing to Remind us:
There is no other Price which is Paid for
this peculiar people that is of the same kind
nor anything like it,
and their Purchase is Made by a Peculiar Person,
One that is God and man in One Person.
"Take heed
therefore to yourselves"
Since the blood of men may be required of those,
who are negligent or partial in their office,
and shun to declare The Whole Counsel of God:
...that they be exemplary
to those who are under their care;
and to their Doctrine,
that it be according to the Scriptures;
that it be the Doctrine of Christ,
and the same with the Apostles;
that it be according to Godliness,
and that it tends to edification;
that it be sound and incorrupt, pure and unmixed,
and all of a piece and consistent with itself;
and that they be not infected
and carried away with errors and heresies:
"and to all the flock;"
the church and all the members of it,
which are compared to a flock of sheep,
which are to be looked after and watched over
by the ministers of the Word,
who are as shepherds to them,
lest they should be infected,
or any damage done them.
... a church of Christ is compared to a flock of them,
being in Gospel order,
folded together and feeding in the same pasture,
attending the Word and Ordinances,
under the care of shepherds
Appointed by Christ The Chief Shepherd;
whose business it is
to take heed unto them, and care of them,
to learn to know their state and condition,
to watch over them,
and to feed them with knowledge
and with understanding,
for which they are qualified by Christ;
to be over a flock of men,
and
of the souls of men Dear to God,
to Christ and the Blessed Spirit;
and
a special regard should be had unto them,
and that for reasons following:
"over which the Holy Ghost
has Made you overseers";
or "Bishops";
this is said to the Elders of the church,
Acts 20:17
17 "And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus,
and called the Elders of the church".
which shows that the Office of an Elder
and a Bishop is one and the same office;
... and is their proper Province, and Office;
and
this they were put into by The Holy Ghost,
Who Gave them Gifts to Qualify them for it,
and
called, and inclined them to undertake it,
as well as moved the people
to make choice of them for this Purpose;
and since, therefore,
this was an Affair
in which the Holy Ghost
was so much Concerned,
it became them very diligently to attend it:
"to feed the church of God";
with knowledge and understanding;
and discharge the whole office
of faithful shepherds to the flock,
by feeding the flock and not themselves,
... to stir up
to a diligent performance of this Work;
and that is,
that this flock is the church of God,
a set of men
whom God has chosen for Himself,
and Called by His Grace out of the World,
and Separated for His Own Use and Glory,
and among Whom He Dwells;
and therefore to be fed
with the Faithful Word,
...with the solid Doctrines of the Gospel,
with the Words of Faith and Good Doctrine,
with the wholesome Words of Christ Jesus,
... and in all
they are to be Directed to Christ,
WHO is The Sum
of the Word and Ordinances,
WHO is the Bread of Life, and Food of Faith;
and that the church should be thus fed,
is the Will of Christ,
who has Appointed
and Ordered His ministers
to feed his lambs and sheep,
and has furnished them
with what is necessary for this work;
this is the Design
of the ministry of the Gospel,
and
the Administration of Ordinances;
...
And the churches of Christ
are placed where food may be had,
where the word is Faithfully preached,
and
the Ordinances truly Administered:
"which He has Purchased
with His Own Blood";
which being the Blood
not only of a Pure and Innocent man,
but of one that is Truly and Properly God
as well as man,
was a Sufficient Ransom Price
to redeem the church
and people of God from sin,
the Law, its curse and condemnation:
so that this is considerable proof
of the True and Proper Deity of Christ;
and contains a fresh argument, or reason,
why the flock of God and "church of Christ",
should be taken heed to and fed.
...
But Jesus Christ being God,
was Able to Make such a Purchase,
and
Jesus has actually Made that Purchase
and Given a Sufficient Price
for
the flock of God and "church of Christ"
... to God, from Whom they had strayed,
against Whom they sinned,
and Whose Law they broke;
and
this Price was Jesus Christ himself,
His Life and Blood;
and which Life and Blood Jesus Gave
were His "Own".
...
This Price was Jesus Christ Himself,
His Life and Blood;
in HIS Human Nature,
the Blood of which was Shed,
and its Life Given
having been in Union
with His Divine Person,
and was in such sense His Own.
...
The Life and Blood Jesus Gave
were
The Property of the Son of God.
...
And this Purchase of the flock of God
and "church of Christ"
now Being Made in this Way,
and by such Means,
this very Peculiar Purchase
is a very Proper One;
it is not made without Price,
but with an Invaluable Price;
...
It is a Finished Purchase;
and it is a very Peculiar Purchase,
it is a peculiar people that are Purchased,
called the Purchased Possession,
Ephesians 1:14
Ephesians 1:12 "That we should be to the Praise of His Glory, who first Trusted in Christ.
...
Ephesians 1:13
"In Whom ye also Trusted,
after that you heard The Word of Truth,
the gospel of your salvation:
in Whom also after that you Believed,
you were Sealed with
that Holy Spirit of Promise,
...
Ephesians 1:14 "Which" (The Holy Spirit of Promise)
is "The Earnest of our Inheritance
until The Redemption
of
The Purchased Possession,
unto the Praise of His Glory."
...
...
OTE="Martin Marprelate, post: 2456158, member: 10536"]I thought it was pretty generally known that Smyth and Hellwys were the originators of the first General Baptists. However, these fell into Quakerism and Unitarianism during the early 18th Century and disappeared for a time.
The Particular ('Calvinistic,' 'Reformed') Baptists developed quite separately and survive to this day. We know that there were seven congregations in London by 1644. I occasionally preach at a church that dates its foundation to 1653.[/QUOTE]
I was just blogging on
THE HOLY SPIRIT ADMINISTERING
to THE LORD'S CHURCHES
that The Holy Spirit,
is
The Executive of the Godhead,
Who Has Been Sent
to Govern The Lord's churches
as
THE HOLY SPIRIT
Appoints the human leaders
over the churches
and added these portions from Gill, as a Blessing to Remind us:
There is no other Price which is Paid for
this peculiar people that is of the same kind
nor anything like it,
and their Purchase is Made by a Peculiar Person,
One that is God and man in One Person.
"Take heed
therefore to yourselves"
Since the blood of men may be required of those,
who are negligent or partial in their office,
and shun to declare The Whole Counsel of God:
...that they be exemplary
to those who are under their care;
and to their Doctrine,
that it be according to the Scriptures;
that it be the Doctrine of Christ,
and the same with the Apostles;
that it be according to Godliness,
and that it tends to edification;
that it be sound and incorrupt, pure and unmixed,
and all of a piece and consistent with itself;
and that they be not infected
and carried away with errors and heresies:
"and to all the flock;"
the church and all the members of it,
which are compared to a flock of sheep,
which are to be looked after and watched over
by the ministers of the Word,
who are as shepherds to them,
lest they should be infected,
or any damage done them.
... a church of Christ is compared to a flock of them,
being in Gospel order,
folded together and feeding in the same pasture,
attending the Word and Ordinances,
under the care of shepherds
Appointed by Christ The Chief Shepherd;
whose business it is
to take heed unto them, and care of them,
to learn to know their state and condition,
to watch over them,
and to feed them with knowledge
and with understanding,
for which they are qualified by Christ;
to be over a flock of men,
and
of the souls of men Dear to God,
to Christ and the Blessed Spirit;
and
a special regard should be had unto them,
and that for reasons following:
"over which the Holy Ghost
has Made you overseers";
or "Bishops";
this is said to the Elders of the church,
Acts 20:17
17 "And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus,
and called the Elders of the church".
which shows that the Office of an Elder
and a Bishop is one and the same office;
... and is their proper Province, and Office;
and
this they were put into by The Holy Ghost,
Who Gave them Gifts to Qualify them for it,
and
called, and inclined them to undertake it,
as well as moved the people
to make choice of them for this Purpose;
and since, therefore,
this was an Affair
in which the Holy Ghost
was so much Concerned,
it became them very diligently to attend it:
"to feed the church of God";
with knowledge and understanding;
and discharge the whole office
of faithful shepherds to the flock,
by feeding the flock and not themselves,
... to stir up
to a diligent performance of this Work;
and that is,
that this flock is the church of God,
a set of men
whom God has chosen for Himself,
and Called by His Grace out of the World,
and Separated for His Own Use and Glory,
and among Whom He Dwells;
and therefore to be fed
with the Faithful Word,
...with the solid Doctrines of the Gospel,
with the Words of Faith and Good Doctrine,
with the wholesome Words of Christ Jesus,
... and in all
they are to be Directed to Christ,
WHO is The Sum
of the Word and Ordinances,
WHO is the Bread of Life, and Food of Faith;
and that the church should be thus fed,
is the Will of Christ,
who has Appointed
and Ordered His ministers
to feed his lambs and sheep,
and has furnished them
with what is necessary for this work;
this is the Design
of the ministry of the Gospel,
and
the Administration of Ordinances;
...
And the churches of Christ
are placed where food may be had,
where the word is Faithfully preached,
and
the Ordinances truly Administered:
"which He has Purchased
with His Own Blood";
which being the Blood
not only of a Pure and Innocent man,
but of one that is Truly and Properly God
as well as man,
was a Sufficient Ransom Price
to redeem the church
and people of God from sin,
the Law, its curse and condemnation:
so that this is considerable proof
of the True and Proper Deity of Christ;
and contains a fresh argument, or reason,
why the flock of God and "church of Christ",
should be taken heed to and fed.
...
But Jesus Christ being God,
was Able to Make such a Purchase,
and
Jesus has actually Made that Purchase
and Given a Sufficient Price
for
the flock of God and "church of Christ"
... to God, from Whom they had strayed,
against Whom they sinned,
and Whose Law they broke;
and
this Price was Jesus Christ himself,
His Life and Blood;
and which Life and Blood Jesus Gave
were His "Own".
...
This Price was Jesus Christ Himself,
His Life and Blood;
in HIS Human Nature,
the Blood of which was Shed,
and its Life Given
having been in Union
with His Divine Person,
and was in such sense His Own.
...
The Life and Blood Jesus Gave
were
The Property of the Son of God.
...
And this Purchase of the flock of God
and "church of Christ"
now Being Made in this Way,
and by such Means,
this very Peculiar Purchase
is a very Proper One;
it is not made without Price,
but with an Invaluable Price;
...
It is a Finished Purchase;
and it is a very Peculiar Purchase,
it is a peculiar people that are Purchased,
called the Purchased Possession,
Ephesians 1:14
Ephesians 1:12 "That we should be to the Praise of His Glory, who first Trusted in Christ.
...
Ephesians 1:13
"In Whom ye also Trusted,
after that you heard The Word of Truth,
the gospel of your salvation:
in Whom also after that you Believed,
you were Sealed with
that Holy Spirit of Promise,
...
Ephesians 1:14 "Which" (The Holy Spirit of Promise)
is "The Earnest of our Inheritance
until The Redemption
of
The Purchased Possession,
unto the Praise of His Glory."
...
...
OTE="Martin Marprelate, post: 2456158, member: 10536"]I thought it was pretty generally known that Smyth and Hellwys were the originators of the first General Baptists. However, these fell into Quakerism and Unitarianism during the early 18th Century and disappeared for a time.
The Particular ('Calvinistic,' 'Reformed') Baptists developed quite separately and survive to this day. We know that there were seven congregations in London by 1644. I occasionally preach at a church that dates its foundation to 1653.[/QUOTE]
Are you in England? I live on the Welsh border & worship in Hay-on-Wye.