Originally posted by 4His_glory:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TomMann:
Aside from the C/A debate.... I was rather startled to hear it implied that Christ's sacrifice was not in and of itself sufficient for my salvation. That a second sacrifice was required on my part... this is foreign to me....
I was shocked to read that as well. It sounds very dangerous too me. I am thankful that Christ was my sufficient sacrifice. Christ said He was the only way, the only truth and the only life, to suggest that I must do somthing as well to be saved is an insult to this truth. </font>[/QUOTE]Now we're getting down to the "MEAT OF THE WORD", Hope ya'll don't "CHOKE" on it.
Whether you believe in Jesus or not is a "CHOICE",
YOU MAKE and you will be "JUDGED" on that "CHOICE", "Belief" will saved, "Unbelief" will condemn,
and "YOU" have to be "GUILTY" of the charge, not God.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Jesus had to die to pay the "wages of sin", because
God "NEVER" forgive sin.
Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass,
one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
And what's the "wages of sin"???
Jesus, in the garden prayed, "IF IT'S POSSIBLE" change the law, find another way for me to pay for sin so I don't have to die, "LET THIS CUP PASS FROM ME".
But God wouldn't change the "LAW of death for sin" even for Jesus, he had to pay the "PRICE" of our sin, "DEATH".
If God forgive one sin without it's wages being paid,DEATH, then Jesus die for nothing.
Mt 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfil. (the requirments of the law, death for sin
If anyone owes for so much as "ONE SIN" when Judged, they'll go to "HELL".
Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
YOUR FAITH in Jesus means you're no longer
UNDER THE LAW of "death for sin".
But, "YOUR FAITH" also requires "YOUR WILLINGNESS" to "Crucify the old man". (sacrifice)
Ro 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the
body of sin might be destroyed,
Mt 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Ro 6:16 Know ye not, that
to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;
whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
If any goes to Hell, it will be because of "THEIR UNBELIEF", precisely what scripture says they will be condemned for, not Predestination.
I don't know what is being taught in your church, but evidently, you're not listening or they're not teaching,
I'll tell you what's an "INSULT TO THE TRUTH", that's adding "leaven" to it.
1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
[ October 14, 2005, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: Me4Him ]