Fleeing from Sexual immorality

[matt wade]

Amen as I made the right decision tonight. Dave Ramsey types would tell me to pinch pennies and avoid using the Credit Card at all costs. But immorality and temptation from evil is far worse than a little purchase on my Credit Card!

Actually, "Dave Ramsey" types would tell you to forgo the trip until you save the money to go.

 

[Iconoclast]

Does her Pastor or someone in the church have a spare room? Motel 6 is cheap no frills....Tom bodett will leave the light on for you.

 

[HAMel]

This person could be an under cover cop looking for a bust.

...an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

 

[Christos doulos]

I am leaning towards taking it, but some may say I would be harming my testimony

Her testimony also.

I believe you just answered your own question.

 

[freeatlast]

I met a woman a few months back on eharmony and we have been chatting via phone, and MSN video chat ever since. She is mature in the Lord, seeks to please him, and is not the prostitute type, or seducing type. We have planed a trip and I will be flying out to see her soon. A buddy of mine works at the airline and is getting the tickets for under $100. A hotel cost on the cheap side would be $180 for 3 days and we have both looked extensively. She is a homeowner and did offer me a room in her house instead. I am leaning towards taking it, but some may say I would be harming my testimony. However as we are both mature in the Lord, and we are not high school or college age, I think it would be okay. I understand for a high school or college type person and the running harmones, but we are both professionals. She has a professional career and one that has paid enough for her to buy a house.

What do you say? I'd hate to have to fork out the $180 or so in hotel fees when I am unemployed, but if necessary I will. I think this would be a good time to take this trip before I find another job.

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The very fact that you or her are even considering staying at this woman's home shows neither of you are mature nor wise.
1Cor 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Get yourself a room and do not be alone with this woman as she IS NOT mature in her faith nor wise. Meet in public and keep your hands off one another. Remember a kiss of passion is the beginning of the sexual experience. Also do not put such a venture on a credit card unless it can be paid off at the end of the month. That too is un-wise. Do not be a slave to the lender. Make sure you are not running up debt to fulfuill your desires. Wait upon the Lord until you can afford to pay for all this in cash.
Isa 40:31
But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew [their] strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; [and] they shall walk, and not faint.

 

[Arbo]

Second what Freeatlast said.

(...even though you said elsewhere you'd never again read one of my posts. )

 

[Mexdeaf]

I wonder if some people even own a mirror...

 

[Baptist Believer]

I'm amazed at the lack of grace some posters are exhibiting in this thread. Someone asks a question, by all appearances, in humility, and he gets his character, alleged social skills, and spiritual maturity attacked for asking the question.

How is that helpful to your brother in Christ?

While we may have some significant differences, why use this moment of vulnerability (asking a sincere question makes one vulnerable) to take shots at him?

Frankly, it shows a lack of spiritual maturity on the part of the snipers and not the target of their barbs.

 

[annsni]

I think it is due to the last few days of posts from this poster that explains some people's reactions. I'm not sure if you have seen them or not.

 

[Mexdeaf]

I'm amazed at the lack of grace some posters are exhibiting in this thread. Someone asks a question, by all appearances, in humility, and he gets his character, alleged social skills, and spiritual maturity attacked for asking the question.

How is that helpful to your brother in Christ?

While we may have some significant differences, why use this moment of vulnerability (asking a sincere question makes one vulnerable) to take shots at him?

Frankly, it shows a lack of spiritual maturity on the part of the snipers and not the target of their barbs.

You call it a 'lack of grace'- I call it a 'wake-up call'. I suppose some would accuse Jesus of a 'lack of spiritual maturity' for the way he talked to his disciples sometimes.

 

[freeatlast]

You call it a 'lack of grace'- I call it a 'wake-up call'. I suppose some would accuse Jesus of a 'lack of spiritual maturity' for the way he talked to his disciples sometimes.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

 

[Oldtimer]

On another note that I don't think anyone has mentioned yet.

Should the trip be taken at all by an unemployed person who has to go into debt to do so?

How is this trip different from anything else someone wants vs basic needs, when debt is required to supply the wants?

 

[Alcott]

I'm amazed at the lack of grace some posters are exhibiting in this thread. Someone asks a question, by all appearances, in humility, and he gets his character, alleged social skills, and spiritual maturity attacked for asking the question.
How is that helpful to your brother in Christ?

Did he, or did he not, ask: "What do you say?

While we may have some significant differences, why use this moment of vulnerability (asking a sincere question makes one vulnerable) to take shots at him?
Frankly, it shows a lack of spiritual maturity on the part of the snipers and not the target of their barbs.

So how much spiritual maturity are you showing by saying that then?

 

[HAMel]

Baptist Believer, have you considered the Heading of the Original Poster?

Fleeing from Sexual immorality.

It would appear the OP'r has already concluded that an encounter might present itself as a blip on the radar screen. Then, asks the rest of us what we think about it all.

Could one draw a conclusion that perhaps the question is really about asking if there is some loophole to justify an act between the two, should the opportunity arise, so that it might not actually be considered "immoral"?

If he has doubts about it all then give into the doubt.

 

[Mexdeaf]

This verse comes to mind-

Proverbs 27:17

Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another.

Sharpening is not painless on the part of either of the parties.

 

[DaChaser1]

I met a woman a few months back on eharmony and we have been chatting via phone, and MSN video chat ever since. She is mature in the Lord, seeks to please him, and is not the prostitute type, or seducing type. We have planed a trip and I will be flying out to see her soon. A buddy of mine works at the airline and is getting the tickets for under $100. A hotel cost on the cheap side would be $180 for 3 days and we have both looked extensively. She is a homeowner and did offer me a room in her house instead. I am leaning towards taking it, but some may say I would be harming my testimony. However as we are both mature in the Lord, and we are not high school or college age, I think it would be okay. I understand for a high school or college type person and the running harmones, but we are both professionals. She has a professional career and one that has paid enough for her to buy a house.

What do you say? I'd hate to have to fork out the $180 or so in hotel fees when I am unemployed, but if necessary I will. I think this would be a good time to take this trip before I find another job.

we are called by God to avoid even the appearance of Evil!

It would seem to be "not the Christian thing to do!"

can meet her for lunch/dinner date, but that would about the extent of it!

 

[Baptist Believer]

I think it is due to the last few days of posts from this poster that explains some people's reactions. I'm not sure if you have seen them or not.

I suppose I haven't.

 

[Baptist Believer]

we are called by God to avoid even the appearance of Evil!

Actually no...

We are called to avoid evil every time it appears.

If we are to avoid things that some people might think are evil, then Jesus was an extremely poor example for us by the way He lived His life. He associated with the "wrong" kind of people, He healed on the Sabbath, and challenged the religious authorities of His day.

The avoiding "even the appearance of evil" teaching is a formula for condemnation and control, not Spirit-filled living.

 

[DaChaser1]

Actually no...

We are called to avoid evil every time it appears.

If we are to avoid things that some people might think are evil, then Jesus was an extremely poor example for us by the way He lived His life. He associated with the "wrong" kind of people, He healed on the Sabbath, and challenged the religious authorities of His day.

The avoiding "even the appearance of evil" teaching is a formula for condemnation and control, not Spirit-filled living.

Think that in THIS situation though brother...

We should shun even giving to others reason to ridicule cause of Christ,and i am NOT trying to be a legalist, but for example...

I moved down to near detroit, and for last week before my wedding date, stayed at friends house that week, and stayed away from my wifes house until wedding day!

 

[freeatlast]

Actually no...

We are called to avoid evil every time it appears.

If we are to avoid things that some people might think are evil, then Jesus was an extremely poor example for us by the way He lived His life. He associated with the "wrong" kind of people, He healed on the Sabbath, and challenged the religious authorities of His day.

The avoiding "even the appearance of evil" teaching is a formula for condemnation and control, not Spirit-filled living.

DaChaser1 is correct. We are to avoid even the appearance of evil. In other words if it looks like it can turn to evil or even seems evil we are to stay away from it in our daily practices. It is talking about what we take part in as a way of life, not spreading the word of God.