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"For God SO LOVES the HUMAN RACE..."

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Acts2.21, Jun 17, 2019.

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  1. 1689Dave

    1689Dave Well-Known Member

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    We still have a universal atonement with Calvin. Election is another topic.
     
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    I agree we have a universal atonement. I thought you meant universal salvation (my bad).

    Calvin, Augustine, Luther, Zwingli, ... all of these taught that Christ died for all (for the sin of the human race). You are right that it was the next generation (Beza's) that refined the doctrine.

    Again, sorry for the misunderstanding. When I read " universalism" I was thinking capital "U" and salvation rather than propitiation.
     
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    So why don't you answer it for me, I haven't been here for years.
     
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    Six Hour Warning
    This thread will be closed sometime after 7:45 PM Pacific.
     
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    Thank you.
    Do you believe Ephesians 1 says that the saved were predestined to be so?
     
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    No. It serves either to cause judgement of the non-elect or to save God's elect.
     
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    Everything you have said here is absolute nonsense. I don't believe anything you said about the subject. In the context of Jn 3:16 the word "World" is all inclusive. And you haven't proven it any different. All you've done is complain about what you do not accept as truth. You seem to be all about confusion, and acting like you have all the answers However I'm not impressed by your drivel :Roflmao
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    This thread is closed.
     
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