For real?

[mandym]

Any unbiased party listening to them could hardly be inspired to see her as a potential leader.

That is just rude

 

[Skandelon]

Not to derail, but so far I really like what I see from Herman Cain.

http://www.hermancain.com/

:thumbsup: Me 2

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Not to derail, but so far I really like what I see from Herman Cain.

http://www.hermancain.com/

At this stage it is hard to know, but so far he looks like a true conservative. I heard him interviewed was genearlly impressed. It'll be interesting to see how the next several months go.

 

[Mexdeaf]

At this stage it is hard to know, but so far he looks like a true conservative. I heard him interviewed was genearlly impressed. It'll be interesting to see how the next several months go.

Didn't want to derail this thread any further so i started a new one.

 

[targus]

Did Governor Palin really explain Paul Revere's ride as Revere warning the British?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oS4C7bvHv2w

She isn't entirely off base.

After Revere was captured by the British he did tell them that they were aware that the British were on their way to confiscate weapons and that the British would be facing an army of armed individuals.

The poem that you may be using as the basis of your knowledge of Revere is no more historically factually correct than Palin's version.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

She isn't entirely off base.

After Revere was captured by the British he did tell them that they were aware that the British were on their way to confiscate weapons and that the British would be facing an army of armed individuals.

The poem that you may be using as the basis of your knowledge of Revere is no more historically factually correct than Palin's version.

Didn't I mention that above?

 

[JohnDeereFan]

She seemed confused and befuddled by a simple question

So, there's actually a place on Earth where "confused and befuddled by a simple question" isn't a commentary on someone's intelligence?

Posters are correct, she is not technically running for anything.

There's no "technically" about it. She isn't running for anything.

But, as a historical traditional conservative I find it embarrassing that she is claiming to be the spokesperson for my political persuasion.

When has she ever claimed to be a spokesman for anyone at all?

She had a chance to make this right by simply saying, 'You know what, I was caught off guard by the question and did not think though my answer. Here is what I meant...'

What, exactly, would that "make right" when she wasn't wrong in the first place?

What a class act that would have been for a noted private citizen.

How is apologizing for something you never did a "class act"?

 

[dwmoeller1]

No, on the other hand, did the President really think it was 2008 on his official visit to the UK?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-signs-Westminster-Abbey-guestbook-2008.html

HankD

This misses the fact that Palin actually affirmed that she did in fact believe that Revere made his ride to warn the British.

 

[dwmoeller1]

She isn't entirely off base.

After Revere was captured by the British he did tell them that they were aware that the British were on their way to confiscate weapons and that the British would be facing an army of armed individuals.

The poem that you may be using as the basis of your knowledge of Revere is no more historically factually correct than Palin's version.

This is just a case of one little detail (warned the British) taken out of context of her larger statement happening to resemble a little know fact. But read the detail in it's larger context (both the original statement and latter explanation) and it sounds nothing like the factoid you mention.

For one, the "warning" you mention was purely incidental to Reveres purpose. He was doing his best to avoid the British and his subsequent capture put an end to his ride. Not to mention the absence of Palin's gunfire and bell ringing.

It's an ad hoc explanation that stretches creduiity to use in defense of her statement. But again her initial mistake is of little real interest everyone makes mistakes like that), its the subsequent defense of her statement that is truly interesting.

 

[dwmoeller1]

About the Paul Revere thing... Has anyone actually taken a moment to get past the sound bite to see what Palin was trying to communicate (which had nothing to do with Revere, or with the faulty parsing of the media)? She was saying that Revere was sending a signal to the Brits that America was not going to back down -- he was engaged in courier activity that was intended to lead to the American ability to war against the most powerful nation on the earth in that era. She was not technically incorrect, but she did not repeat the childhood quip about Revere, which is why what she said so stands out.

Yeah I caught what she was trying to say. But what she was trying to get at is even more problematic than a simple misstatement. First of all she was technically incorrect in all the details of her statements. The purpose of the ride was not to warn the British - he in fact did his best to avoid them. The only semi-literal "warning" he gave was when his ride was effectively over (and there is indication that his real intent was to deceive the British). There was no gunshots or bell ringing on the ride either.

Secondly her larger point approaches absurdity. At the vey least her take on "warning" is decidely nonstandard. Consider this analogy: You overhear some guy at a cafe planning to rob your neighbors that night. You don't let on to the would be robber that you overheard or care and sneak to the restroom were you can surreptitiously call your neighbor so they can be prepared to protect their property.

Now the robber is certainly going to find out that the house is defended and they will certainly know to expect resistance if they continue in the robbery. However it would be absurd to claim that your secret phonecall was somehow intended as a warning to the robber. The only signal sent to the robber was the shotgun pellets inches hide.

At the very least, saying you were warning the robber with your phone call is a decidedly...weird take on the incident - an explanation which stretches logic.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I am going to have to depart - as much as I have enjoyed this I have spent far too much time here.

I think that maybe some aspects of the right deserve Gov Palin as their spokesperson/leader/representative. I think I will wait for someone else.

 

[HankD]

This misses the fact that Palin actually affirmed that she did in fact believe that Revere made his ride to warn the British.

Nah, She forgot one word - The British rebels.

HankD

 

[HankD]

I am going to have to depart - as much as I have enjoyed this I have spent far too much time here.

I think that maybe some aspects of the right deserve Gov Palin as their spokesperson/leader/representative. I think I will wait for someone else.

C4K, remember the bad mouthing, the ridicule and contempt Ronald Reagan received when he was contemplating the run for president?

What?! An actor for president!!?

Chimp jokes, etc. But...

HankD

 

[JohnDeereFan]

I think that maybe some aspects of the right deserve Gov Palin as their spokesperson/leader/representative. I think I will wait for someone else.

What is it about the fact that she's not running for anything and that she's never claimed to be anyone's "spokesperson" or "representative" that you find so hard to grasp? You seem to be very confused and befuddled by this very simple concept.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

This misses the fact that Palin actually affirmed that she did in fact believe that Revere made his ride to warn the British.

She never said that he made his ride to warn the British, but that the ride served as a warning to the British.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_...rical_account/

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...e-british.html

 

[blackbird]

Um, let's see...

She was elected the governor of Alaska
She was nominated to the VP spot on the GOP ticket last election cycle
She has since parlayed a rather mundane income bracket into a multi-million dollar venture
She has become a household name
She has the power to energize the conservative base (which is the biggest reason that liberal entities are so nervous about her)
And, yes, she sometimes mis-speaks, as do all candidates and office holders (aka "Mr. Tele-Prompter," otherwise known as the President of the United States).

Sounds really stupid to me... :thumbs:

Don't believe every smear piece that originates with the NYT or other liberal media outlet. They often search for the one snippet that will sound bite which may or may not be in context of the entire transcript of Palin's (or any other conservative candidate's) presentation.

About the Paul Revere thing... Has anyone actually taken a moment to get past the sound bite to see what Palin was trying to communicate (which had nothing to do with Revere, or with the faulty parsing of the media)? She was saying that Revere was sending a signal to the Brits that America was not going to back down -- he was engaged in courier activity that was intended to lead to the American ability to war against the most powerful nation on the earth in that era. She was not technically incorrect, but she did not repeat the childhood quip about Revere, which is why what she said so stands out.

You hit the nail on the head

IMO----the soundbite was an obvious "throw" by liberal media in their ongoing pursuit in downplaying GOP potential candidates which is geared pschologically to make the Democrats appear as "Einstein think alikes!"

Can you spell Potato, Mister Quale???

Yes-----ummmmm----P-O-T-A-T-O-E

The GOP ticket crashes and burns

Trent Lott at the famed birthday party and his line----If you'd been President 100 years ago, we would't have the mess we're in now(or something along those lines)

The GOP ticket crashes and burns again

Then Palin comes along----Mercy---I can see Russia from my house!!

Again----the GOP ticket crashes and burns---the liberal media does not look for the GOP plane to ABORT takeoff and return smoothly to the terminal-----------they want the GOP to crash and burn-----every misspelled word---every misdirected historcial fact---making mountains out of mole hills-----every lit match into a towering inferno that rivals Mrs. O'Leary's cow!!!

I believe the liberal media will keep on until they have their new and improved Adolf Hitler elected

One more thing----I'd rather be known as Paul Revere over Benedict Arnold---any day of the year!!

 

[JohnDeereFan]

You hit the nail on the head

IMO----the soundbite was an obvious "throw" by liberal media in their ongoing pursuit in downplaying GOP potential candidates which is geared pschologically to make the Democrats appear as "Einstein think alikes!"

Can you spell Potato, Mister Quale???

Yes-----ummmmm----P-O-T-A-T-O-E

The GOP ticket crashes and burns

Trent Lott at the famed birthday party and his line----If you'd been President 100 years ago, we would't have the mess we're in now(or something along those lines)

The GOP ticket crashes and burns again

Then Palin comes along----Mercy---I can see Russia from my house!!

Again----the GOP ticket crashes and burns---the liberal media does not look for the GOP plane to ABORT takeoff and return smoothly to the terminal-----------they want the GOP to crash and burn-----every misspelled word---every misdirected historcial fact---making mountains out of mole hills-----every lit match into a towering inferno that rivals Mrs. O'Leary's cow!!!

I believe the liberal media will keep on until they have their new and improved Adolf Hitler elected

One more thing----I'd rather be known as Paul Revere over Benedict Arnold---any day of the year!!

I just find it fascinating that the Looney Left is obsessed with this woman, who isn't a leader of anything, who isn't an elected official, who isn't running for anything, but is merely riding around on a bus, while completely ignoring substantive issues and men who actually are running for office. The media was complicit in the Pigford scandal, carries the water for Oba-Mao and the Islamacists' radical and anti-Israel policies and acts, and completely ignored the fact that a U.S. senator was engaged in perverted sexual acts and now admits that he doesn't even know whether many of the women/girls he was involved with are of legal age.

But they consider it a major victory that they embarrassed Sarah Palin.

 

[Bob Alkire]

But they consider it a major victory that they embarrassed Sarah Palin.

I'm not a fan of hers and I doubt she is a fan of mine( she never heard of me). I couldn't vote for her and McCain and it wasn't her fault, McCain was way to far to the left for me, so I went 3rd party.

I agree with your above statement and it is a shame.

 

[glfredrick]

What is MOST evident to me is that the Left is once again working their media magic to cause the Right to reconsider who is or is not fit for office -- and worse, the Right is falling for it.

Of course, Palin is NOT running for anything right now, but should she jump in (and there is still time) they will just continue the onslaught. If she doesn't jump in, they will still continue the onslaught -- she is their new toy.

They will do likewise with any candidate they do not like -- which is ANY candidate more conservative than McCain or those like him.

 

[RockRambler]

"Come listen my children and you shall hear
Of the cowardly treason of Paul Revere".....