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For some, Sally Yates' firing resembles Saturday Night Massacre

Crabtownboy

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My first thought when I read the headline was, "Saturday night massacure."
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Acting Attorney General Sally Yates' firing over her refusal to enforce President Trump's immigration ban made waves on social media Monday night.

And, as news spread of the ouster, critics thought of another clash between a president and attorney general that ended in an ouster: the Saturday Night Massacre.

Many compared what happened to Yates, an Obama holdover who defied Trump's executive order suspending immigration from seven majority-Muslim countries, to former President Richard Nixon's clash with his Attorney General's Office over the handling of the Watergate investigation. That disagreement led to the resignations of Attorney General Elliot L. Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William D. Ruckelshaus.

Saturday Night Massacre started trending on Twitter with more than 29,000 tweets, as did Monday Night Massacre.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...sally-yates-saturday-night-massacre/97273334/
 
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Rolfe

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If I understand correctly, he just fired the only person capable of signing foreign surveillance warrants. Nice job...
 
Rob_BW

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Her replacement was installed in the same message. Easy to replace an "acting" with another "acting."
 
Crabtownboy

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Rolfe,

Buckley must be turning over in his grave. It is a shame the publication he founded is not what it used to be. There is some very fuzzy thinking in this article, IMHO. The Constitution is above the president. It is above all law. It is the law. Which is a higher duty for any attorney general, abide by the law they feel is being violated or loyality to their boss?

My question is not for argument but for reasoned discussion. To me to say loyality to their boss is a slippy slope to huge troubles. There are judges who go against their own beliefs because of established law. This is an area I have pondered over the years and for me it is one reason I could never be a lawyer.
 
StefanM

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I absolutely despise Trump, but I don't fault him for this move.

This isn't trying to fire a Senate-confirmed AG over a political issue. She was just kept on as a stop-gap measure until Sessions could be confirmed. Otherwise, no one could perform certain essential functions.

She was living on borrowing time anyway, so replacing her with another stop-gap doesn't really bother me.

On the plus side, because she knew she was going to lose her job before too long, she was able to speak out according to her convictions.
 
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Rolfe

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StefanM said:
She was living on borrowing time anyway, so replacing her with another stop-gap doesn't really bother me.
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As long as the position is not left vacant, I think that he was right to let her go. There can be only one Captain of a ship, and the President is the leader of the Executive Branch.
 
Crabtownboy

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StefanM said:
I absolutely despise Trump, but I don't fault him for this move.
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Agree. She was filling in until his appointee is confirmed. There is going to be a huge fight over Jeff Sessions.

This isn't trying to fire a Senate-confirmed AG over a political issue. She was just kept on as a stop-gap measure until Sessions could be confirmed. Otherwise, no one could perform certain essential functions.

She was living on borrowing time anyway, so replacing her with another stop-gap doesn't really bother me.

On the plus side, because she knew she was going to lose her job before too long, she was able to speak out according to her convictions.
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Agree. As she was on borrowed time and knew it she played it rather cleverly. For many people, rightly or wrongly, Trump's firing her makes him look bad and not her. As you said, she stood up for what she believed.
 
StefanM

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Crabtownboy said:

Agree. She was filling in until his appointee is confirmed. There is going to be a huge fight over Jeff Sessions.
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I'm not sure about that. The Dems will make some noise, but there's no way the GOP senators will reject him, and some Dems will likely join (like Joe Manchin). All they have to get is 50 votes, and that won't be hard to do.
 
InTheLight

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This is just a terrible "news" article.

Look at the rationalization: "For some..." and "Many compared..." and "The phrase, Saturday Night Massacre is trending on Twitter"

This is an opinion piece masquerading as a news story. Shameful.
 
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Crabtownboy said:
My first thought when I read the headline was, "Saturday night massacure."
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Acting Attorney General Sally Yates' firing over her refusal to enforce President Trump's immigration ban made waves on social media Monday night.

And, as news spread of the ouster, critics thought of another clash between a president and attorney general that ended in an ouster: the Saturday Night Massacre.

Many compared what happened to Yates, an Obama holdover who defied Trump's executive order suspending immigration from seven majority-Muslim countries, to former President Richard Nixon's clash with his Attorney General's Office over the handling of the Watergate investigation. That disagreement led to the resignations of Attorney General Elliot L. Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William D. Ruckelshaus.

Saturday Night Massacre started trending on Twitter with more than 29,000 tweets, as did Monday Night Massacre.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...sally-yates-saturday-night-massacre/97273334/
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You fail to post that Trump has NO ban on 47 Muslim nations, just a temp ban of 7 nations Obama himself declared were high terror threats! Media lies like no other!
 
carpro

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Sally Yates deserved to be fired. She violated her oath of office.

Fight or no fight, Jeff Sessions will be confirmed. He is far too well respected in the Senate, on both sides of the aisle.
 
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