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For the Catholics and catholic sympathisers...

Alive in Christ

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This is about the priest John Corapi.

He was on EWTN alot, and, in spite of my view of catholicism, I have to say I really really enjoyed his talks and some of his preaching/teaching.
He had a very compelling testimony of his prior life before becoming religeous, and/or becoming a christian. I could very much identify with his prior life. Mine was similer. I really respected him.

However, I came upon some information recently that saddend and distressed me regarding Coropi

Here it is...

Corapi, who railed against liberal movements within the church, gained the empathy of many fans with his unusual conversion story. Once a prominent and wealthy real estate agent in Los Angeles, he saw his riches crumble because of cocaine addiction and ended up homeless for three years before checking into a psychiatric facility. He decided to turn his life around in 1984, later enrolled in seminary and was ordained as a deacon in Corpus Christi, Texas, in 1990. He was ordained as a priest a year later by Pope John Paul II.

Now based in Montana, he worked as a priest in Sacramento, Calif., Hudson, N.Y., and Robstown, Texas, but was best-known for his television ministry, where he would commonly use military imagery to describe his faith. "My mother [Mary] wears combat boots," the former U.S. army enlistee would often say in his sermons.

Speculation over Corapi's future had mounted since he was suspended from his religious order in March after one of his female employees accused him of sexual misconduct. Corapi denied the allegations, but suffered a blow when the Catholic television network that beamed his conservative sermons to millions of viewers also suspended his appearances pending an investigation by his religious superiors. Irondale, Ala.-based EWTN reaches 146 million subscribes in dozens of countries.

In an eight-minute audio statement uploaded to YouTube, Corapi stressed that he is innocent, but indicated frustration with a church judicial process that he saw leading to "[leaving] me suspended indefinitely and just [letting] me fade away."


"You are for all practical purposes assumed guilty until you can prove you are innocent. This one is truly baffling. No civilized society operates that way," he said in the statement.

"I accept moving on, but I am not ready to be altogether extinguished just yet," Corapi added. He said he will continue to write and speak publicly on "broader" topics under the name "The Black Sheep Dog." He also announced an autobiography that is "almost ready for publication."

Ever since his suspensions, fans have waged an aggressive campaign to reinstate the priest, whose "Father Corapi and the Catechism of the Catholic Church" show was among the most popular in Catholic media. This weekend, they were reacting strongly to his departure from active ministry via blogs and social media, with condemnation, sorrow and support.

"A lot of people are shaken, especially conservatives -- they idolized him," said Deacon Greg Kandra of the Diocese of Brooklyn, who has followed developments on Corapi through on his blog, The Deacon's Bench. "He's very orthodox, extremely conservative. He has professed a great devotion to the Blessed Mother and Padre Pio. He's not one of those people who goes for feel-good

Do you all have any more information then this regarding Corapi? How things are going concerning his situation?

Thanks and God bless.
 

SolaSaint

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Sad to hear that. I pray he is innocent, if not I pray he repents. More importantly I pray he gets saved.
 

Walter

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Sad to hear that. I pray he is innocent, if not I pray he repents. More importantly I pray he gets saved.

Only God knows whether he has the proper relationship with His Son. I suspect even though I have repented of my sins, placed my faith in Christ and His shed blood on the cross for my salvation, you and others on this board will still say that I'm not saved because I embrace the Catholic faith. You and others say 'it is imposible to believe what the Catholic Church teaches and have a saving relationship with Jesus Christ', do you not? I don't want to put words in your mouth, maybe you are one of the exceptions.
 

SolaSaint

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Maybe I should have said I pray he gets saved if he isn't already. I didn't mean to say he wasn't born again. I'm sure there are some Catholics that are, but it is real hard to believe they wouldn't come out of the works based system their in. But then again I'm not in his shoes. Thanks for pointing this out.:wavey:
 

saturneptune

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Only God knows whether he has the proper relationship with His Son. I suspect even though I have repented of my sins, placed my faith in Christ and His shed blood on the cross for my salvation, you and others on this board will still say that I'm not saved because I embrace the Catholic faith. You and others say 'it is imposible to believe what the Catholic Church teaches and have a saving relationship with Jesus Christ', do you not? I don't want to put words in your mouth, maybe you are one of the exceptions.
I believe without a doubt you are saved, based on your testimony. It is puzzling why one would go from Baptist to Catholic. Presbyterian or Methodist would have been more understandable if one tires of the Baptist emphasis on selected sins, or their perceived judgemental attitudes. The point is, you have faith in Jesus Christ, and once established, is eternal.

It needs to be stated again. Most on this board and in the Baptist faith believe there will be many Catholics in heaven, and many on Baptist rolls in hell. It has to do with Jesus Christ, not labels. However, the Baptist faith follows Scripture for its doctrine and structure of its churches. The Catholic Church does nothing but put up road blocks to a relationship between a saved person and the Lord. In other words, they are saved despite the RCC.

Now, looking at the RCC, especially in their higher ranks, anyone who is not a member of the RCC is headed for the Lake of Fire. Look at the two positions of Baptists and Catholics side by side, and you tell me which one is more reasonable and gracious? That is the ultimate, a church that does not follow the Gospel telling the world a church that does follow the Gospel that they are apostate.
 
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Zenas

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No one seems to know what Fr. Corapi is up to and those who ought to know aren't talking. My guess is that he fell back into addiction and is in treatment somewhere, but that is just speculation.
 

The Biblicist

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Only God knows whether he has the proper relationship with His Son. I suspect even though I have repented of my sins, placed my faith in Christ and His shed blood on the cross for my salvation, you and others on this board will still say that I'm not saved because I embrace the Catholic faith. You and others say 'it is imposible to believe what the Catholic Church teaches and have a saving relationship with Jesus Christ', do you not? I don't want to put words in your mouth, maybe you are one of the exceptions.

I don't doubt there are some saved Catholics. However, the problem is terminology. We use the same language but mean different things. I think you know what we believe about justification by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone without works. Now, is that what you mean when you say you have repented of your sins and placed your faith in Christ and His shed blood on the cross for your salvation OR do you define those words within the Roman Catholic sacramental framework of salvation? That is the real question! If you define those words within the Roman Catholic sacramental framework of salvation, then no, I don't believe you are saved. We just use similar terms, similar expressions but mean totally different things.
 

Yeshua1

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I don't doubt there are some saved Catholics. However, the problem is terminology. We use the same language but mean different things. I think you know what we believe about justification by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone without works. Now, is that what you mean when you say you have repented of your sins and placed your faith in Christ and His shed blood on the cross for your salvation OR do you define those words within the Roman Catholic sacramental framework of salvation? That is the real question! If you define those words within the Roman Catholic sacramental framework of salvation, then no, I don't believe you are saved. We just use similar terms, similar expressions but mean totally different things.

Would say that IF say a baptist has been really saved by grcae of god and freely decides to 'go back home" to Rome...

Going back under the bondage of the Law again, so not losing salvation, but would be getting chained up with bondage jesus died to set us free from!

Going back from grace to the Judaizers!
 

WestminsterMan

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This is about the priest John Corapi.

He was on EWTN alot, and, in spite of my view of catholicism, I have to say I really really enjoyed his talks and some of his preaching/teaching.
He had a very compelling testimony of his prior life before becoming religeous, and/or becoming a christian. I could very much identify with his prior life. Mine was similer. I really respected him.

However, I came upon some information recently that saddend and distressed me regarding Coropi

Here it is...



Do you all have any more information then this regarding Corapi? How things are going concerning his situation?

Thanks and God bless.

Check this out...

http://catholicism.about.com/b/2012/01/26/what-has-happened-to-fr-john-corapi.htm

WM
 

Wittenberger

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My dear Catholic Christian brother, our Calvinist/Baptist brothers and sisters believe that the only proper way to be saved involves the sinner doing or feeling something (accepting Christ, praying the Sinner's Prayer, or declaring that you feel you are one of the Elect). None of this is found in God's Word.


We are saved by God's divine will alone, not by our decision to "accept Christ". As a Lutheran I disagree with the Catholic belief that the believer must do good works to help his salvation, but that does not negate the correct Catholic belief that it is Christ who initiates and accomplishes their salvation. Your belief regarding good works does not negate the saving power of Almighty God. You are his child by his divine will alone!

You are a Christian. Your faith and repentance are proof of God's saving action. God bless you, brother!

For a comparison of Catholic/Lutheran/Baptists beliefs check out: http://www.lutherwasnotbornagain.com
 

Alive in Christ

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Wittenberger...

Who exactally are you posting to?

I can assure you, I am not, in any way, Catholic, and I certainly do not hold to the errors of Calvinism.
 
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Walter

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My dear Catholic Christian brother, our Calvinist/Baptist brothers and sisters believe that the only proper way to be saved involves the sinner doing or feeling something (accepting Christ, praying the Sinner's Prayer, or declaring that you feel you are one of the Elect). None of this is found in God's Word.


We are saved by God's divine will alone, not by our decision to "accept Christ". As a Lutheran I disagree with the Catholic belief that the believer must do good works to help his salvation, but that does not negate the correct Catholic belief that it is Christ who initiates and accomplishes their salvation. Your belief regarding good works does not negate the saving power of Almighty God. You are his child by his divine will alone!

You are a Christian. Your faith and repentance are proof of God's saving action. God bless you, brother!

For a comparison of Catholic/Lutheran/Baptists beliefs check out: http://www.lutherwasnotbornagain.com

Well, I would challenge you to show me anywhere in the Catechism of the Catholic Church where it teaches Catholics to 'do good works to help his salvation,' The Catholic Church does not now, nor has it ever, taught a doctrine of salvation by works...that we can “work” our way into Heaven.

Nor do we talk about keeping the Law on our own efforts in order to be justified. We talk about being justified by God, according to His righteousness, not our own, by being transformed into people who love, which fulfills the Law ipso facto.

The Reformers, especially Luther, believed man cannot be righteous, so that righteousness can only be imputed, while Catholics believe man cannot be righteous without God. 'God was effectively rejected by man at the Fall, by having His authority rejected. And this is supported by the New Covenant promises in Jer 31 where God tells us He'll be our God again, and will write His laws "on our hearts and in our minds". From there we're expected to express that change, that love, by good works as per Eph 2:10 and Gal 5:6. Read the Parable of the Talents.'

It all begins with grace, which begets faith, which accomplishes a walk or relationship with God within which He works a work in us leading to salvation, with our cooperation, the Potter molding the clay for His purposes, to His satisfaction..

Thank you for referring to Catholics as your 'Catholic Christian brother'! Many on this board do not believe that the words Catholic-Christian belong together. Too bad their going to have to spend eternity with us anyway!
 
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Yeshua1

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My dear Catholic Christian brother, our Calvinist/Baptist brothers and sisters believe that the only proper way to be saved involves the sinner doing or feeling something (accepting Christ, praying the Sinner's Prayer, or declaring that you feel you are one of the Elect). None of this is found in God's Word.


We are saved by God's divine will alone, not by our decision to "accept Christ". As a Lutheran I disagree with the Catholic belief that the believer must do good works to help his salvation, but that does not negate the correct Catholic belief that it is Christ who initiates and accomplishes their salvation. Your belief regarding good works does not negate the saving power of Almighty God. You are his child by his divine will alone!

You are a Christian. Your faith and repentance are proof of God's saving action. God bless you, brother!

For a comparison of Catholic/Lutheran/Baptists beliefs check out: http://www.lutherwasnotbornagain.com

i am a calvinist in regards to Sotierology, who happens to be a Baptist, and hold that it is the Will of God that saved me, but that I also had and did place faith in jesus to have the Lord do that for my behalf!

A saved baptist would see that they are saved by grace alone/faith alone NO sacramental garces required... Do you?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Would say that IF say a baptist has been really saved by Grace of god and freely decides to 'go back home" to Rome...

Going back under the bondage of the Law again, so not losing salvation, but would be getting chained up with bondage jesus died to set us free from!

Going back from grace to the Judaizers!

you do know of course that there are a ton of Judaizers amongst the Reformers dont you ...particularly in the Orthodox Presbyterian & in many Dutch Reformed Churches...even in PCA. If not, go into the Puritan Forum tomorrow & see how they observe their Sabbath.:rolleyes:
 

billwald

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>you do know of course that there are a ton of Judaizers amongst the Reformers dont you ...particularly in the Orthodox Presbyterian & in many Dutch Reformed Churches...even in PCA. If not, go into the Puritan Forum tomorrow & see how they observe their Sabbath.

Agreed! Same as dispensational Baptists who think that passing "moral" laws will help bring in the kingdom.
 

billwald

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The Catholic Church has the same problem as Protestants and Baptists: Most of the pew sitters have never studied the Bible cover to cover and don't understand what they are supposed to believe.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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>you do know of course that there are a ton of Judaizers amongst the Reformers dont you ...particularly in the Orthodox Presbyterian & in many Dutch Reformed Churches...even in PCA. If not, go into the Puritan Forum tomorrow & see how they observe their Sabbath.

Agreed! Same as dispensational Baptists who think that passing "moral" laws will help bring in the kingdom.

I wouldnt know...I dont subscribe to dispensational or Covenant theology.
 
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