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Forensic Justification of sinners!

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Yeshua1

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JonC said:
We could have done that. That is the point, and the condemnation. We could but we wouldn't. Obedience and submission is not, as Edwards pointed out, outside of our power. It is outside of our will and desire. Jesus had the same nature that we have, but he was without sin.
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He was also God, we are not!
 
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Yeshua1 said:
No, he was/is fully God and man! Just saying that Jesuswas not a sinner at all du to Him being both God ad fully walking in the Spirit!
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What does it mean for Jesus to be fully man?

Look, brother, I am not denying that Jesus is God. Jesus is not more human than human any more than he is less God than God. But Jesus is God in the person of the Son who did not see equality with God a thing to be grasped. He was found in the form of man.

Our salvation depends on Jesus having lived as a man (not more human than human), having submitted his will (tuned to the flesh, the desires of the flesh, the wants and needs of the flesh) to God (to the Father). Could Jesus have sinned? Well, it was in his power, but not his will. Could we not have sinned? It was in our power, but not in our will.

Do you understand what I am saying? Jesus fulfilled the law of God not by relying on his own will but by submitting himself to the will of God (the will of the Father) through the power of God (the power of the Spirit). And this is the example Christ provides for us, Paul explains. Just as Jesus' life was in submission to the Father so also should that mind be in us.
 
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Yeshua1 said:
No, he was/is fully God and man! Just saying that Jesuswas not a sinner at all du to Him being both God ad fully walking in the Spirit!
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I'll leave you with this thought, Y1 - The Law was only a shadow, a copy, of the things to come. It was not the real thing. It could only point to what was to come. But when Jesus came into the world, he knew God did not want a sacrifice or an offering. Instead God prepared him a body. And Jesus came to do the Father's will. God took away the first to establish the second (not vice versa).
 
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