Forty-one states have refused Kobach's request for voter information

[Crabtownboy]

41 states have refused request for voter information - CNNPolitics.com

Trump's play is an obvious one to falsely use voter fraud as a tool to deny minorities the vote.

 

[Salty]

41 states have refused request for voter information - CNNPolitics.com

Trump's play is an obvious one to falsely use voter fraud as a tool to deny minorities the vote.

and how does the govt deny citizens to vote?

 

[Crabtownboy]

and how does the govt deny citizens to vote?

Salty, think about it. The results, as misused by the commission, would be used to have or attempt to have laws passed that would keep the 'unwanted' opposition from voting. Often used in 3rd world countries. Of course it may be that Trump wants a commission that suppresses the voter fraud that favored him.

The only active court case I know of is in Virginia where a young GOP Trump supporter was working at a voter registration center and was caught falsely filling out voter registrations.

Virginia Man Pleads Guilty to Falsely Registering Dead People as Voters
Andrew J. Spieles admitted to filling out eighteen fake voter registration forms.

A 21-year-old Virginia man will spend between 100 and 120 days in prison after admitting that he submitted falsified voter registration forms, some of which contained the names of dead people.

Spieles admitted to delivering eighteen fake forms to the voter registrar’s office in Harrisonburg in August 2016. His intent was discovered, however, when an registrar’s office worker recognized that one of the names he submitted was that of a Rockingham County judge’s deceased father.

The United States Justice Department said in a statement that Andrew J. Spieles also said that he prepared false voter registration forms by using information taken from state Democratic Party “walk sheets”:



Virginia Man Pleads Guilty to Falsely Registering Dead People as Voters

 

[HankD]

CTB that is not only baloney but salami, mortadella and capocolla (Italian sandwich anyone).

After the progressives scream with hair on fire "RUSSIAN COLLUSION" now it's "the government is TRYING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM VOTING"

Yes, preventing the dead, the felon, the multiple vote and the illegal immigrant/international from voting - Yes.

However I am opposed to the way this edict went out.

Part of my thinking is libertarian and IMO the administration went about this the wrong way.

1.) It should have been a REQUEST of the several states (States Rights) with guidelines and federal funds (if necessary) to assist.
2.) It should include a special section under the heading "International meddling".

For anyone who has international knowledge to single out the Russians as meddlers is to mislead the public.

Yes, they are indeed meddlers in ALL our affairs but the Ukraine as well, China, Israel... just about EVERYONE does it or has done it including America and a case could be made that we are among the very worse.

The U.S. Has Been Meddling In Other Countries' Elections For A Century. It Doesn't Feel Good.

The most current scandalous meddling by America's previous administration (not reported very well in the US) was the Obama attempt to topple Netanyahu by funding meddling of the Israeli election.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

HankD

 

[just-want-peace]

My Son-I-L commented along this line that he was all for the intent of the move, but equally as happy to see states standing up to the feds for a change.
I had not thought of the "states rights issue", so I have ambivalent feeling about the move. 'Course I do wonder why they (states) are so concerned about "privacy" when we all know there is virtually no such animal anymore.

Also, why would they not be glad that, supposedly, voter fraud would be minimized as a result -- then again this may just be the reason some(??) states don't want their systems investigated: think maybe???

At any rate, I'm hoping for the Rapture to occur soon and let the liberals have this country, which will last less than one year before making Cuba look like a paradise. JMO of course!!

 

[Crabtownboy]

My Son-I-L commented along this line that he was all for the intent of the move, but equally as happy to see states standing up to the feds for a change.
I had not thought of the "states rights issue", so I have ambivalent feeling about the move. 'Course I do wonder why they (states) are so concerned about "privacy" when we all know there is virtually no such animal anymore.

Also, why would they not be glad that, supposedly, voter fraud would be minimized as a result -- then again this may just be the reason some(??) states don't want their systems investigated: think maybe???

At any rate, I'm hoping for the Rapture to occur soon and let the liberals have this country, which will last less than one year before making Cuba look like a paradise. JMO of course!!

The problem they face is the misuse of the data by whatever party is in power in the Federal government.

I thought conservatives were against the government messing into our lives. Some folks have preached that a lot here on this BB. This commission is a major intrusion into our lives.

And after the rapture what if it is the Conservatives who are left behind for not believing in helping the poor, the sick and the elderly?

 

[InTheLight]

And after the rapture what if it is the Conservatives who are left behind for not believing in helping the poor, the sick and the elderly?

Can you clarify? Do you believe that eternal salvation is attained by doing good deeds? Sure looks like it based on this post.


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[Squire Robertsson]

Or that conservatives aren't saved, to begin with.

Can you clarify? Do you believe that eternal salvation is attained by doing good deeds? Sure looks like it based on this post.
Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Can you clarify? Do you believe that eternal salvation is attained by doing good deeds? Sure looks like it based on this post.


Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.

I was replying tongue-in-cheek to Just-Want-Peace implying that all liberals will be left on earth. It was a silly statement.

By the way, show me your works and I will show you your faith. Remember in James, "Faith without works is dead"?

 

[InTheLight]

By the way, show me your works and I will show you your faith. Remember in Timothy, "Faith without works is dead"?

No. But I remember it from the book of James.


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[Crabtownboy]

No. But I remember it from the book of James.


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Good. Thanks for the correction. I corrected my mistake.

 

[Yeshua1]

41 states have refused request for voter information - CNNPolitics.com

Trump's play is an obvious one to falsely use voter fraud as a tool to deny minorities the vote.

Actually, he wants to make sure Illegals not allowed to vote!

 

[InTheLight]

The information Trump is looking to get:

The information the commission is seeking includes registrants' full names, addresses, dates of birth, political parties, the last four digits of their social security numbers, a list of the elections they voted in since 2006, information on any felony convictions, information on whether they were registered to vote in other states, their military status, and whether they lived overseas.

Seems to me this is an invasion of privacy. The federal government has no need to be able to link SSN#'s with party affiliation with voting precinct. Good on the states for refusing.


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[Crabtownboy]

Actually, he wants to make sure Illegals not allowed to vote!

That is not stated ... unless all minorities are considered illegal.

Why does he need all the information he is asking for. Remember how conservatives and Republicans went crazy about NSA collecting information on people. That was not nearly as intrusive as this!

 

[Yeshua1]

That is not stated ... unless all minorities are considered illegal.

Why do he need all the information he is asking for. Remember how conservatives and Republicans went crazy about NSA collecting information on people. That was not nearly as intrusive as this!

Only those who are here illegally, which would be the ones the Dems wish to see able to still vote!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Only those who are here illegally, which would be the ones the Dems wish to see able to still vote!

Sorry, you are wrong.

 

[777]

CNN's headline here (yet again) is very misleading, 41 states haven't refused to provide this info, nor were they expected to - the letter read:

"I am requesting that you provide to the Commission the publicly available voter roll data for (state), including, if publicly available under the laws of your state: . . ."

so states that have laws against releasing SSN aren't and don't have to release SSN, and CNN counts that as "not complying".

 

[just-want-peace]

The problem they face is the misuse of the data by whatever party is in power in the Federal government.

I thought conservatives were against the government messing into our lives. Some folks have preached that a lot here on this BB. This commission is a major intrusion into our lives.

And after the rapture what if it is the Conservatives who are left behind for not believing in helping the poor, the sick and the elderly?

Any conservative left behind will not be left behind based on a "liberal" definition of helping the------!!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Any conservative left behind will not be left behind based on a "liberal" definition of helping the------!!

Did Jesus say anything about helping this poor, the ill, children, the hungry, etc.?

 

[just-want-peace]

Did Jesus say anything about helping this poor, the ill, children, the hungry, etc.?

I said "--based on a "liberal" definition of helping the------!!" Obviously quite different from your point.
Did Jesus say anything about ME taking money out of YOUR pocket to take care of the poor??? He said that you/I are to aid the poor, each using his OWN resources of money. Jesus was NOT Robin Hood.
If you are going to reference Jesus, the least you can do is do so legitimately!