Foul Language in Restaurant at Table Next to You - WWYD?

[pk4life]

One word.

To-go container.

The end.

Ok that was technically 3 words.

 

[Servent]

I'm with Sapper if it's just me i'll deal with, if my family is there not happening. I don't have a problem telling them so, and it wouldn't be the first time.

 

[th1bill]

This evening my wife an I went out for a nice sit-down meal, and after we ordered a man and woman came in and sat at the table across from us!

Because I spent years with the DOJ and Social Services, as well as a volunteer at the LA Union Rescue Mission for 24 years, I could see the lady was stoned or high on something! Of course, her behavior was loud and obnoxious, but what offended me was the man and his foul language which peppered with "F-bombs" every third or fourth word.

So, other than the manager asking them to lower the volume of their profane conservation, there seemed little more the restaurant was willing to do not to offend the other customers.

They finally lowered the volume, but because of our proximity to their table, we could still hear them. We noticed two other tables of customers leave; we remained as our meal had just been served, and as a diabetic, I needed to eat!

After they left I talked with the manager, and she said she received ten separate complaints about their manner of dress [apparently the lady had on nor underwear, and left dribbled urine on the booth seat] and language!

So, what would you do? I am not doing a poll on this; I figured your responses to my concerns will be more than adequate, and I appreciate it very much!

One more thing, the manager finally took them their check and told them to leave, after the man made a sexual comment to the waitress, and she refused to finish serving them!

Man, this world seems to be sliding down a slippery slope at high speed! :tear:

I am no longer the man I was 15 years ago when I would have asked for decency followed by taking the idot outside. Today I would, over my wife's protests, I would drive my chair into position and ask for civility and then I would pray for them, right there and right then and as dangerous as it sounds, I would trust the LORD to bend their will that I not take a beating.

 

[Zaac]

I am no longer the man I was 15 years ago when I would have asked for decency followed by taking the idot outside. Today I would, over my wife's protests, I would drive my chair into position and ask for civility and then I would pray for them, right there and right then and as dangerous as it sounds, I would trust the LORD to bend their will that I not take a beating.

I think it's a wonderful thing that you would take the time to address a spiritual issue in a spiritual manner.:thumbs:

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

I would have said something to the couple directly, once it became obvious the management wasn't going to do anything. One has to be careful about doing this, however, as stoned people are unpredictable. Be sure you are prepared to handle yourself if it becomes necessary.

Someone so stoned they lose bladder control is a danger to themselves and others, whether driving or not. I think I might have called the police, even though there was no child involved.

 

[Scarlett O.]

I would have said something to the couple directly, once it became obvious the management wasn't going to do anything. One has to be careful about doing this, however, as stoned people are unpredictable. Be sure you are prepared to handle yourself if it becomes necessary.

Someone so stoned they lose bladder control is a danger to themselves and others, whether driving or not. I think I might have called the police, even though there was no child involved.

That's the truth, right there. People under the influence need those trained in removing them to do so - not well-meaning Christians who believe pulling up a chair and praying for them is the answer. You can pray the prayer "of a righteous man" and "avail much" for people like that in your OWN chair.

Common sense has to prevail somewhere.

Having the police or the manager bodily remove someone who is high as a kite is not the opposite of expressing one's spirituality.

I have a policeman in my Sunday School class who handles all kinds of people under the influence of a lot of things and does so in a great spiritual manner.

In fact, a very large and frightening intoxicated man in a hunter's outfit with two large knives in his pockets came into our services one night while the choir was singing. He walked to the front pew and began pointing at people. He was clearly under the influence of something.

The particular policeman and his wife, who is also a policewoman, and a strong deacon walked up to him and quickly gained control of him and escorted him out. He was taken to the police station.

BUT, the next day when the man was sober, a team of men from my church went to visit him in prison to see if the church could help him.

As I said, common sense has to prevail. Protecting the public and/or one's self from harm is NOT ignoring the spiritual nature.

 

[corndogggy]

So, other than the manager asking them to lower the volume of their profane conservation, there seemed little more the restaurant was willing to do not to offend the other customers.

They finally lowered the volume, but because of our proximity to their table, we could still hear them. We noticed two other tables of customers leave; we remained as our meal had just been served, and as a diabetic, I needed to eat!

After they left I talked with the manager, and she said she received ten separate complaints about their manner of dress [apparently the lady had on nor underwear, and left dribbled urine on the booth seat] and language!

I love how your response to fixing restaurant situations is always to be a tattletale. Handle them like a boss instead of a little snitch, like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqp1bGuiHHs

 

[Zaac]

That's the truth, right there. People under the influence need those trained in removing them to do so - not well-meaning Christians who believe pulling up a chair and praying for them is the answer. You can pray the prayer "of a righteous man" and "avail much" for people like that in your OWN chair.

Who said anything about pulling up a chair and praying for them? Some folks will write a soliloquy about something that wasn't even said because you feel the need out of the blue again to swoop in and correct lil ole me.

Common sense has to prevail somewhere.

Having the police or the manager bodily remove someone who is high as a kite is not the opposite of expressing one's spirituality.

Not anything that anyone has said.

As I said, common sense has to prevail. Protecting the public and/or one's self from harm is NOT ignoring the spiritual nature.

No one said otherwise.

 

[salzer mtn]

It was apparent the couple were drunk and disorderly. It is also apparent this eating place also served hard drinks or the manager wouldn't have let them come in. So what does one expect when he socializes with the world partaking in what the world does ?

 

[Scarlett O.]

Who said anything about pulling up a chair and praying for them? Some folks will write a soliloquy about something that wasn't even said because you feel the need out of the blue again to swoop in and correct lil ole me.

I'll tell you who said that he would pull up a chair and start praying for them.

Today I would, over my wife's protests, I would drive my chair into position and ask for civility and then I would pray for them, right there and right then and as dangerous as it sounds, I would trust the LORD to bend their will that I not take a beating.

Bill did. Two posts behind mine. And you know he said it because YOU said that you appreciated his tackling a spiritual issue in a spiritual manner.

I was talking to Bill who claimed that he would disregard the danger and hope the Lord would prevent them from beating him.

The ENTIRETY of my post was direct at Bill, not you.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

This evening my wife an I went out for a nice sit-down meal, and after we ordered a man and woman came in and sat at the table across from us!

Because I spent years with the DOJ and Social Services, as well as a volunteer at the LA Union Rescue Mission for 24 years, I could see the lady was stoned or high on something! Of course, her behavior was loud and obnoxious, but what offended me was the man and his foul language which peppered with "F-bombs" every third or fourth word.

So, other than the manager asking them to lower the volume of their profane conservation, there seemed little more the restaurant was willing to do not to offend the other customers.

They finally lowered the volume, but because of our proximity to their table, we could still hear them. We noticed two other tables of customers leave; we remained as our meal had just been served, and as a diabetic, I needed to eat!

After they left I talked with the manager, and she said she received ten separate complaints about their manner of dress [apparently the lady had on nor underwear, and left dribbled urine on the booth seat] and language!

So, what would you do? I am not doing a poll on this; I figured your responses to my concerns will be more than adequate, and I appreciate it very much!

One more thing, the manager finally took them their check and told them to leave, after the man made a sexual comment to the waitress, and she refused to finish serving them!

Man, this world seems to be sliding down a slippery slope at high speed! :tear:

I lean over and say, "I'm glad y'all are having a good time and I want you to have a good time. But I'm going to have to ask you to mind your language. There are ladies and children present".

 

[Crabtownboy]

Foul language is never appropriate in any setting.

 

[righteousdude2]

I would do likewise

We had almost the same scenario a few months ago. In this case, there was a young child with the stoned couple. We immediately called the police to let them know a toddler was with two very stoned adults and we were concerned as the couple had driven to the restaurant. We knew if they were driving impaired, the child's life was in danger.

The cops were there within a couple of minutes and stayed a long time outside the restaurant checking out the car. When the couple was ready to leave, the police were talking to them. I don't know what happened after that, because we left the restaurant, but I do know the police response time was faster than I'd ever seen it before, probably because a child was involved.

I was taught as a social worker that if I am going to "err" it is far better to ERR on the side of the child than to not err at all! Good for you!

 

[Zaac]

I'll tell you who said that he would pull up a chair and start praying for them.



Bill did. Two posts behind mine. And you know he said it because YOU said that you appreciated his tackling a spiritual issue in a spiritual manner.

I was talking to Bill who claimed that he would disregard the danger and hope the Lord would prevent them from beating him.

The ENTIRETY of my post was direct at Bill, not you.

My apologies to Scarlett O.

 

[righteousdude2]

YOu are right.

Back to the topic....

If they were under the influence enough (or even suspected of being) for her to urinate on the chair and for them to cause that much of a horrible raucous (including his sexual comments to the waitress), then it's my opinion that the police should have been called.

They got a nice meal, in an environment that was conducive to their tastes, and had a high ol' time.

They paid no consequence, but everyone did.

After they left I talked with management, and they apologized and to there credit, they did go to the table four of five times to quiet them down. They finally gave them a check and asked them to leave.

But to my surpise, the manager tld me that corporate has asked their store managers to not remove customers who are paying and ordering. They need to do everything short of removal, unless a fight breaks out!

What a shame! The managers hands were tied!

 

[righteousdude2]

You are brave....

If I am by myself, loud people and cussing do not bother me. I hear it all the time being in the military. But if I'm with my family, I confront people politely, and tell them I don't want my family to hear that. In most cases, this is enough. Per the OP, the police might have needed to be called. In many places, cussing is illegal in public still. Even if it's not, causing a public disturbance is.

Out here in California, it has approached the point that most of us are afraid to approach people like this for fear of them pulling a gun, or waiting in the parking lot to jump us and stab us! It is going on daily ut here, so most of us are not confronting unruly folks for our safety and that of our family.

Let's put it this way .... it was not a hill worth dying on that day!

 

[righteousdude2]

Zaac - I say this out of love!

That's precisely how I think most people respond Sapper. You'd be surprised just how far just speaking in a loving manner will go with some, not all, who are acting like that.

Our response has to be tempered with love and not always emotion. Say a little prayer for the family at your table and then do as you did. It might oen the door to really minister to the folks at the table.

When was the last time you actually talked with someone who was itching for a fight?

Let me suggest you get a crash course in how people are today!

For five weeks, I went on two related FB groups that were developed for believers and atheists, humanists, skeptics and agnostics to discuss their differences.

As for the believers, we were all responding out of love and respect, but in return, I was hit with the most offensive language and comments, I can ever remember hearing! And to make a matter worse, the other unbelievers would jump in and defend their mates, and their entire purpose was to drive the believer off the topic and out of the group!

Today, it is growing seemingly tougher to talk in a cordial way to those who are contrary to you, and while praying for them is the right thing, talking with them has become a scary, ugly, in-your-face event. It is not worth it, and once again, out here in California; things are intimidating to say it mildly!

A few months back I was approached in a parking lot outside Burger King, and the man wanted money. I told him I had none to give. He yelled and said if you're going in there you got money "F&%#er!" I calmly told him all I have is a debit card.

He yelled back and said, " to get some cash back for me!" I said no, and asked him to leave me alone! Did he? No! He followed me into the restaurant and watched everything I did, trying to get as close to me as possible to see how I handled the transaction! The manager could see I was bothered and scared with his over aggressive attitude and stalking demeanor, and demanded he take a few step back and wait at the next customer wait line! He obeyed her, but mumbled more obscenities and glared at her. While we concluded my order, she called a junior staff over and asked them to call the police, and do it quietly.

The guy never ordered anything, but for five minutes, stood there and glared at me. When the manager brought my bag to the pick up window, she asked me to stay in the store until the cops got there. She said this guy was scaring her, and that she felt my safety was of concern to her!

The cops came, and I hurried to the car and left!

This world is a little more out of control than it once was, and I suggest to you that not everything is all rose-colored glasses, you suggest!

If you think, your words of love are so powerful, take a few weeks and visit some of the FB atheist groups and try to share the love of Jesus with them.

Jesus did say things would become like in the days of Noah, before He returned, and I think we are seeing the beginning of those days in and around our communities! Of course,I am only speaking of my local area in Cali, but I am not exaggerating when I say it is a jungle out there!

Sapper Woody was brave for doing what he did, but recently we have seen veterans gunned down and knifed for interfering in things they maybe should have stayed out of.

As for me, when the guy first cam at me out of the darkness in the parking lot, I had an uncanny fear, and began praying for my well being! .!. to it that I was safe! So, yes I prayed, but not for the guy, rather for my life and well being!

As for you and I .... I owe you an apology. I have been more than forceful in directing my comments to you as of late, but the truth is brother, I have grown tired of your scathing comments of judgement towards men and women on the board that I've come to know over the last 5 or six years. I am sorry if I came across aggressive regarding you, and will work to be more patient with you in the future! In return, I'd like similar forbearance on your behalf when it comes to your family here on the board! God bless you!!!! :thumbs:

 

[righteousdude2]

Does that make you feel better?

I love how your response to fixing restaurant situations is always to be a tattletale. Handle them like a boss instead of a little snitch, like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqp1bGuiHHs

I don't know you, but you are easily getting under my skin! We are not all able to do as you.

First, I did n't speak to the manager until they left. If you had the ability to read, you would see that others in the restaurant did speak to the manager, about it, though!

Secondly, it is not my job or the job of others to handle an unrult situation in a restaurant. You are ther for an enjyable meal, and not to break up an ugly situation!

Third, and most importantly, I have a severe neurological condition, and am in no way able to confront someone because if they got physically confrontational, I'd not be able to protect myself, and AGAIN, it was not my place to handle it! I pay taxes for police protection. I pay restauarants to assure the food is great and the atmosphere is civil!

So stop with the name calling, it is rude and meant to provke an argument, something you have been looking for since you jined this board, and I am not about to go one on one with someone who cant speak a sentence without insulting the person they are talking to!

WWJD with a person like you? He'd probably, more than liekly tell you He expected a lot more! :tear:

 

[evenifigoalone]

I can attest to the uselessness of speaking with people on Facebook when it comes to discussing different viewpoints. On public pages, anyway. In most cases I find myself having to politely back out before I get provoked to say things in a manner and attitude that won't reflect well on my character or faith.

 

[righteousdude2]

That is a great point!

I can attest to the uselessness of speaking with people on Facebook when it comes to discussing different viewpoints. On public pages, anyway. In most cases I find myself having to politely back out before I get provoked to say things in a manner and attitude that won't reflect well on my character or faith.

I have no problem with their language [it shows that they are idiots on cyber space], but after a while the negative is overwhelming! I decided I could do so much more with people who want to talk Jesus, than those who want to use His name as an expletive.