Four More Years of Obama or Eternal Life for an Unsaved Person?

[plain_n_simple]

Wanting a good government and preaching the gospel are not mutually exclusive.

I walk walk and chew gum at the same time.

The eye should be single, on Him only, the cares of this world(in this case politics) are worthless in the Kingdom.

 

[targus]

The eye should be single, on Him only, the cares of this world(in this case politics) are worthless in the Kingdom.

Are you not taking your eye off of Him when you are on the internet?

Or shopping for groceries?

Or putting gas in your car?

Why do you single out politics?

 

[plain_n_simple]

Are you not taking your eye off of Him when you are on the internet?

Or shopping for groceries?

Or putting gas in your car?

Why do you single out politics?

I don't take my eye off Him when shopping, I look for opportunities.

It is partly a political question, and because religion does try to put their "champion" in office. Herod's leaven

 

[targus]

It is partly a political question, and because religion does try to put their "champion" in office. Herod's leaven

So do you vote?

 

[plain_n_simple]

The important question would be do you know Jesus? His ways, His thoughts on any and every subject, so I can be like Him. It's a Theocracy a Christian lives in, not a Democracy, in the world not of it.

 

[targus]

The important question would be do you know Jesus? His ways, His thoughts on any and every subject, so I can be like Him. It's a Theocracy a Christian lives in, not a Democracy, in the world not of it.

You are in a political discussion forum saying that instead of politics that people should be concerned about sharing the gospel.

You as much as said that a person cannot care about both.

So again - do you vote or not?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Zaac, how do you know when someone else is saved ? I mean, I think the last people who knew for sure were the people who heard Christ himself pronounce it as so.

Does the Holy Spirit tell you when someone is saved ? Do you personally hear angels rejoicing ? How do you know ?

 

[plain_n_simple]

You are in a political discussion forum saying that instead of politics that people should be concerned about sharing the gospel.

I'm in a Christian forum saying what Jesus said for Christians to do. He never said "Go forth unto every nation and make them Christians through whatever political system they have." lol!

He told us what He thought about politics

He told us what to do

 

[targus]

I'm in a Christian forum saying what Jesus said for Christians to do. He never said "Go forth unto every nation and make them Christians through whatever political system they have." lol!

He told us what He thought about politics

He told us what to do

Why is this so difficult for you?

It is a simple question.

Do you vote or not?

In my mind when someone refuses to answer a straight forward simple question that is on topic it calls everything that they have said into question.

How can I take seriously anything that you have said about the gospel and politics if you refuse to be honest in such a small thing as telling us whether or not you vote?

Is this an example of how you evangelize?

 

[Don]

Nice, but as usual you're trying to confuse the issue. No one said anything about an individual getting saved because of who you voted for.

Yes, you did. Your hypothesis is that by voting for Romney, someone doesn't get saved. The opposite is that, by voting for Obama, someone gets led to salvation.

This is essentially about the ability to witness and a person getting saved by them receiving the Gospel that they allowed you to preach because they didn't refuse to listen because they thought you were being a hypocrite.

And there you go proving what I said.

So again: if someone refuses to hear the Word based on who I voted for, then I'd have to ask what it is they think salvation is really all about.

 

[Don]

If the hypothetical person refuses to receive a witness from Christ from you because he knows that you and other evangelicals support that which does not support Christ, then he probably will remain condemned until someone he doesn't feel is a hypocrite tells Him about Jesus.

In other words, the hypothetical person made a decision about their salvation based on how I voted.

 

[Don]

I'm in a Christian forum saying what Jesus said for Christians to do. He never said "Go forth unto every nation and make them Christians through whatever political system they have." lol!

He told us what He thought about politics

He told us what to do

So in other words, you're saying politics has nothing to do with preaching the gospel, and therefore Zaac's question is invalid. Correct?

 

[plain_n_simple]

Why is this so difficult for you?

It is a simple question.

Do you vote or not?

In my mind when someone refuses to answer a straight forward simple question that is on topic it calls everything that they have said into question.

How can I take seriously anything that you have said about the gospel and politics if you refuse to be honest in such a small thing as telling us whether or not you vote?

Is this an example of how you evangelize?

I answered, you just did not see it. What did Jesus think about politics?
And to you sir, is the gospel more important, or are you deceived thinking you can incorporate Christianity into worldly things?

 

[plain_n_simple]

So in other words, you're saying politics has nothing to do with preaching the gospel, and therefore Zaac's question is invalid. Correct?

Politics are invalid in this kingdom, it's man made and has nothing to do with Christ.

 

[targus]

I answered, you just did not see it. What did Jesus think about politics?
And to you sir, is the gospel more important, or are you deceived thinking you can incorporate Christianity into worldly things?

You answered?

Really? Was it a "yes, I vote" or "no, I don't vote"?

Again, is this an example of how you evangelize?

 

[Zaac]

In other words, the hypothetical person made a decision about their salvation based on how I voted.

Nope. The hypothetical person made a decision about whether or not to let you witness to him based on how you voted.

 

[plain_n_simple]

You answered?

Really? Was it a "yes, I vote" or "no, I don't vote"?

Again, is this an example of how you evangelize?

Read your bible, Jesus departed from them when they tried to make Him natural king. The NT is full of examples of "publicans" being evil. "Where there is envy and strife, there is all sorts of evil." Do you understand Theocracy and Democracy? Now knowing these things, why would I vote for a worldly man in a worldly system, when Jesus is Lord?

 

[targus]

Read your bible, Jesus departed from them when they tried to make Him natural king. The NT is full of examples of "publicans" being evil. "Where there is envy and strife, there is all sorts of evil." Do you understand Theocracy and Democracy? Now knowing these things, why would I vote for a worldly man in a worldly system, when Jesus is Lord?

So my Bible will tell me whether plain_n_ simple votes?

What chapter and verse?

 

[Zaac]

Yes, you did. Your hypothesis is that by voting for Romney, someone doesn't get saved. The opposite is that, by voting for Obama, someone gets led to salvation.

No I didn't.


And there you go proving what I said.

So again: if someone refuses to hear the Word based on who I voted for, then I'd have to ask what it is they think salvation is really all about.

And they probably wouldn't turn to you for that answer as you want to tell them that they need a Savior, but it's okay that your candidate of choice doesn't worship that Savior.

 

[plain_n_simple]

So my Bible will tell me whether plain_n_ simple votes?

What chapter and verse?

You'll find it if you open it much