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Fourth Grader Gets Three Day Suspension From School For Bringing Nerf Gun

Don

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Shag, in fairness, I don't think CTB is talking about items being used as tools, but by those who live in fear and think the only way to get by is to be armed. At least that is what it looks like to me, but of course CTB can speak for himself.
I almost agreed with you...except that CTB said that weapons that are carried in almost all cases are carried by cowards.

Maybe if he had said most, or many; but "almost all"?
 

Bro. Curtis

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Shag, in fairness, I don't think CTB is talking about items being used as tools, but by those who live in fear and think the only way to get by is to be armed. At least that is what it looks like to me, but of course CTB can speak for himself.
You should let him. His statement was stupid.
 

sag38

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Someone owes an apology to Curtis but has his nose so far up his own personal morality that he will never see the need to stoop to such a low level as to actually apologize.
 

InTheLight

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I remember waiting for my Dad to give me my first pocket knife. It was a rite of passage. Some kids in the neighborhood got them when they were 8 years old. I had to wait until I was 10. I didn't have it to be "armed". Sheesh!

Nowadays I keep a small Swiss army knife in my truck. Once you leave the house you never know when you might need a knife. I guess I'm a coward.
 
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sag38

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Guess I am really a coward then because in addition to my pocket knife I have a Beretta 9mm with two extra clips in the glove box. The real coward is one who in freedom chooses not to have a pistol or a knife as if he or she is on a higher moral plane than the one who in freedom chooses to do so not realizing that very freedom to freely make that choice was purchased by the blood of men and women who fought and even died for that freedom. When I was in the Army I toted an M16A1 and an M60 machine gun. I was never called on the use them but would have to protect Crabby's freedom to remain on a higher moral plane than the rest of us. Kind of makes one wonder who the real coward is.
 

Crabtownboy

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Guess I am really a coward then because in addition to my pocket knife I have a Beretta 9mm with two extra clips in the glove box. The real coward is one who in freedom chooses not to have a pistol or a knife as if he or she is on a higher moral plane than the one who in freedom chooses to do so not realizing that very freedom to freely make that choice was purchased by the blood of men and women who fought and even died for that freedom. When I was in the Army I toted an M16A1 and an M60 machine gun. I was never called on the use them but would have to protect Crabby's freedom to remain on a higher moral plane than the rest of us. Kind of makes one wonder who the real coward is.

As I protected you freedom when I was in the Army ... in Germany when the Berlin Wall went up. It was a tense time and my unit knew we were canon fodder if war broke out.

I respectfully disagree with your premise. I do not have time to address it fully here, but hope to do so in the not too distant future.

My reasoning for not carrying a weapon is not a higher moral order. It is a well founded position on common sense and in knowing how to take care of myself in such situations. For many people having a weapon only makes the situation worse and as we have seen in our society all too often results in an innocent person being murdered by a person who, because of their cowardliness, always carries a weapon.
 

Crabtownboy

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I remember waiting for my Dad to give me my first pocket knife. It was a rite of passage. Some kids in the neighborhood got them when they were 8 years old. I had to wait until I was 10. I didn't have it to be "armed". Sheesh!

Nowadays I keep a small Swiss army knife in my truck. Once you leave the house you never know when you might need a knife. I guess I'm a coward.

Not if you use it as a tool. I'd say a Swiss Army Knife is a poor weapon of choice for personal defense.
 

sag38

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Again, Crabby proves his high level of arrogance in suggesting that those who carry a knife or pack heat have some sort of cowardice, inferiority complex, and are somehow too stupid to use them properly as if in their mind they live in a a type of wild west were every conflict is settled with violence. If that were the case I would have already blown a lot of folks off the road for driving slow in the fast lane, shot my neighbor's barking dogs, and shot out the speakers from the car whose teenage owner drives by rattling my house windows. More so, in his arrogant pacifism, he assumes a higher spiritual plane in suggesting that I and others somehow do not trust God enough (at least as much as he does) because we choose to carry a knife or a pistol.
 

just-want-peace

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Again, Crabby proves his high level of arrogance in suggesting that those who carry a knife or pack heat have some sort of cowardice, inferiority complex, and are somehow too stupid to use them properly as if in their mind they live in a a type of wild west were every conflict is settled with violence. If that were the case I would have already blown a lot of folks off the road for driving slow in the fast lane, shot my neighbor's barking dogs, and shot out the speakers from the car whose teenage owner drives by rattling my house windows. More so, in his arrogant pacifism, he assumes a higher spiritual plane in suggesting that I and others somehow do not trust God enough (at least as much as he does) because we choose to carry a knife or a pistol.

"I thank thee that I am not as other men-----."
Where have we seen that statement before?????:sleeping_2::sleeping_2::sleeping_2:
 

carpro

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Yes, if you are so fearful that you carry a knife, then yes you are a coward.

That is one of the dumbest statement I have ever seen on this board.

People don't carry pocket knives for protection.

Absolutely mindnumbingly stupid remark.
 

Magnetic Poles

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Often the difference between a tool and a weapon is the intent of the one holding it. Remember, 9/11 was done with a tool used to open cardboard boxes.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I would say, with every pocket knife on the planet, it is a tool until you use it as a weapon.

It doesn't make C.T.B.'s statement any smarter.
 

Bro. Curtis

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A locking blade Buck Knife is great for cutting and stripping wire, working with rope, cutting branches, cleaning fish, all stuff I've been doing since Junior High school.

To call it cowardice for carrying one, or even assuming it's a weapon in the first place, is asinine. One of the stupidest claims ever made.
 

Magnetic Poles

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To the OP, the children should have been instructed on what toys were unacceptable to the administration prior to having them bring in their favorite as part of an assignment.
 
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